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    You Care About Your Future Get Out Of Xavier Aruba Or Bonair

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    Talking about Aruba, yes they are accredited by WHO, IMED, and they have charter from Aruba Gov. I know Xavier student who write USMLE. IF you do not something don't talk about it.
    Go and do your reseach again.

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    For your info go to www.IMED.ECFMG.org and you will see Xavier

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    to be fair, it's not the Department of Education in NY, it's the Board of Medical Licensing that does the site visits
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Prince View Post
    Talking about Aruba, yes they are accredited by WHO, IMED, and they have charter from Aruba Gov. I know Xavier student who write USMLE. IF you do not something don't talk about it.
    Go and do your reseach again.
    You're right, and Xavier students have gone on to be residents. Let's face facts though, Xavier needs a lot of work, and certainly does behave deceptively - oh the loans will be in on Monday, err well Tuesday, well Friday at the latest... Well maybe next Monday... Visa issues and sudden deportations plague the school as well, but perhaps that's just an Aruba thing. Do you realize that a cadaver was deported recently from the school? Maybe its papers weren't signed...

    Plus, off those who write the USMLE, 10/25 pass?

    Xavier has a long way to go to be a premier Caribbean school. Right now, and as others have indicated, it should be a choice of last resort. I've got $8000.00 in and 0 out. So like any smart gambler, I've come to the realization that it's time to leave the table. Besides, I need a paddle to cross my kitchen and dining area right now. Nice... that was supposed to be fixed weeks ago. Ah life on the island...

    XLXL is right about NewYork, where it's very difficult to get accreditation, so if NewYork is your destination, then Xavier shouldn't be a stop along the way. If you're Canadian and have dreams of practicing in Canada, then the Caribbean is a poor choice all around.

    Sorry, but I call them as I sees them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jasano View Post
    ... If you're Canadian and have dreams of practicing in Canada, then the Caribbean is a poor choice all around.
    Sorry, but I call them as I sees them.
    Actually, Saba, AUC, SGU, Ross, St Matt's and AUA all have Canadians doing well in their programs. Do have to have the MCAT taken for these schools for the most part. As for your living conditions, sorry, Aruba has some nice places - The friends of Xavier who rent to Xavier students are not on the nice list.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jameslynton View Post
    Actually, Saba, AUC, SGU, Ross, St Matt's and AUA all have Canadians doing well in their programs. Do have to have the MCAT taken for these schools for the most part. As for your living conditions, sorry, Aruba has some nice places - The friends of Xavier who rent to Xavier students are not on the nice list.
    Wrong on both counts I'm afraid. Caribbean schools offer little for Canadians who want to return to Canada - Canada is virtually a closed door to those who haven't done their training there. Moreover, good luck getting that training because no Caribbean schools offer cores in Canada and Canada does not offer more than a handful of residencies to non-Canadians. Take the stats for any given year in Canada, and you will find a number of foreign trained doctors, who've passed all the steps and are still waiting for residency - many have been waiting upwards of 2 or 3 years for unpaid residency spots... you'll also find a rising tide of patients who are unable to get a family doctor.

    On Aruba, Oh man, I have heard so many horror stories on this island it's unbelievable. Landlords telling students to pack up today and head out the door this afternoon - 24 minutes notice anyone? Others have been threatened with physical violence.

    Much of the housing available to students is expensive (overpriced) and much of it is in great need of repair - my kitchen dining area is flooded daily, my sink upstairs does not drain, the windows seal poorly, and in some cases we're missing them altogether - meaning that mosquitos have easy access and the A/C becomes a costly option. Trust me, this is one of the better places.

    You're right about one thing though, you'll find better housing on your own than you will through the school. It's a major culture shock for many students coming to Aruba who soon discover that they have no furniture (though they were promised this), no electricity and no water. The nice places are in the travel brochures, and you won't being staying at any of those kiddies.

    Theft is also a major problem on the island, (once again despite what the travel brochures say), so keep your doors locked at all times and your laptop on or near your lap.

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    Actually for your information, Canada is not that closed door at all from Caribbean schools especially those from SGU, SABA, MUA-Nevis etc. The school has to have accreditation from IMED and WHO, write your Medical council evaluating exam part 1 and 2, and in provinces such as Manitoba,Saskatchewan, Nova Scotia,then apply to CARMS which is the Canadian matching program. Its possible to get in at first round before theres a shortage there. In provinces like Ontario much harder to get your residency coming from a Caribbean schools but its still done.However, theres more preference rather then the Caribbean if your say from Ireland, England, and Australia. Just thought I would clarify that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by canadianforlife View Post
    Actually for your information, Canada is not that closed door at all from Caribbean schools especially those from SGU, SABA, MUA-Nevis etc. The school has to have accreditation from IMED and WHO, write your Medical council evaluating exam part 1 and 2, and in provinces such as Manitoba,Saskatchewan, Nova Scotia,then apply to CARMS which is the Canadian matching program. Its possible to get in at first round before theres a shortage there. In provinces like Ontario much harder to get your residency coming from a Caribbean schools but its still done.However, theres more preference rather then the Caribbean if your say from Ireland, England, and Australia. Just thought I would clarify that.
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    In the last few years students at Saba and SGU have gotten residence positions in Canada - Right out of school - don't believe all that you read in certain papers or sources. I know of several cases where once they finished residence in the US, they were allowed to practice back Canada, as that they were Canadian or from the Brit commonwealth. It is more problematic for MD's who are from the country and did the school there. Reader's Digest is not know as a great source of anything more than hearsay information.
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