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    fossildoc is offline Moderator 518 points
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    Students over 50: take heart

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    I am making a rare exception to my practice of not tooting my own horn, in order to encourage you older Xavier students to continue your studies in spite of the many obstacles that may befall you.

    I, your moderator, fossildoc, have won an award. It's called the Wells Fargo Second Half Champions Award. Wells Fargo (WF) is one of the country's biggest financial institutions; they own half the banks here in the Atlanta area. The award is administered by Wells Fargo Advisors (WFA), the public relations and charitable giving arm of WF. "Second Half" refers to the second half of one's life, i.e., after 50 years old. The award recognizes exceptional achievement after 50; my achievement was to receive the MD degree at age 66.

    To win this award, I was nominated by someone familiar with my travails through two medical schools, the first of which collapsed almost from under me. I was then interviewed by phone for a total of five hours, and underwent a thorough background check to verify my claims about education, employment, etc. I was in competition with thousands of other nominees. Only 26 awards in the entire country were given in 2010, including only 3 in Georgia, where I live.

    This is a very high profile award. WFA sent a film crew to videotape me for two entire days, for which we commandeered a clinic I did a rotation at. They then sent a still photographer, who took 180 pictures. All of this will be distilled down to about 15 minutes of video and stills to be shown at a huge awards ceremony for the 3 Georgia winners to be held soon, attended by 4700 people, and which will be put on the WFA web site. There is also a cash prize.

    Why is this important to you older students? Winning this award doesn't mean I'm smart; I'm a person of average intelligence and lower than average grades. I'm not being honored for being smart, but for being persistent, for doggedly pursuing a goal in spite of bitter setbacks and frustrations that haunted me every step of the way. WFA apparently thinks this is significant for a person of my age, and I humbly agree. I don't have to remind any of you of the daily outrages and humiliations you suffer in Aruba (if you think things are bad now, you should have seen it under the previous ownership, and even that was nothing compared to the daily debacles I endured at my first school).

    If you have taken Behavioral Science, you certainly know that us old folks have far fewer neurons than our twenty-something counterparts. Although we have more interneurons than them, and can therefore "connect the dots" better than they can, it takes us four times as long to learn something as the young folks. That's not an exaggeration. I have to read a chapter four times before I have the level of retention that a 25-year-old has after reading it once. This has consequences, as you know. Because you must study so much more, you cannot partake of social activities with other students. No beach parties, gym workouts, basketball games, boat rides, or casino visits, because you have to study. The young students say you're antisocial and wonder what's wrong with you. And even after living like a hermit with your books, you still fail a course or two, like I did, not because you don't understand, but because you can't keep pace with a curriculum designed for young people.

    Many times you've considered quitting. If you make it to clinicals, you will have those feelings again, in response to a new set of daily outrages.

    I gave a big speech at my white coat ceremony in which I related my progress through school to the children's story of the tortoise and the hare, the moral of which is that if you want to finish the race, you have to keep putting one foot in front of the other until you cross the finish line. If you become lazy and presumptuous like the hare, you will lose. You will also need to adopt a bit of an arrogant and defiant attitude, because the things thrown at you -- from administrators, teachers, students, and Aruban officials -- would otherwise discourage you.

    Therefore, if you are over 50 and are wondering if you will ever be done with all this, don't be discouraged! Don't quit! I graduated at 66 and I'm not smart; that means you can do it, too.

    PM me to find out if there's life after graduation.
    Brain surgeon to another: "Hey, this isn't rocket science".
    Rocket scientist to another: "Hey, this isn't brain surgery".

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    Wow fossildoc, that is really fantastic! Congrats on your award! Please post a link to the video when it is available.
    So if I understand you correctly, Xavier Aruba allowed you to graduate without having taken any of the steps? I guess they don't allow this any more. Did you do all of your rotations through Medstars, and if yes, I guess they also allowed you to do cores and electives without step 1? Which of course leads to the question, does Medstars offer both green and non-green rotations based on individual circumstances like yours? Which other medical schools use Medstars? Sorry for all the questions, but you have a reputation for always providing accurate and non-biased information!
    Again congrats and best of luck with studying for the steps and whatever you do in the future.

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    fossildoc is offline Moderator 518 points
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    Monay24: thank you for your kind words.

    I followed all policies and procedures that were in effect at the time I did my rotations; no exceptions were made. When the school adopted the policy of requiring Step 1 for graduation, they correctly allowed current students to continue under the rules that were in effect at the time of their admission. The new policy is an attempt by the school to improve the quality of Xavier graduates, one of the many improvements made under the new administration.

    MedStars did not arrange for all my rotations. When I started, the school used an agency called GMC, which has since been bought and no longer exists as a separate entity. About midway through my rotations, GMC was replaced by MedStars, which was initially heralded as a welcome relief from the, well, troublesome GMC, but the honeymoon did not last long, and now I believe MedStars no longer initiates any rotations for Xavier students. Many other schools used them, but I have no idea if anyone still does. Both GMC and MedStars cores were all green, which, IMO, is grossly overrated; as I have stated in other posts, all my feedback is to the effect that how you present yourself at an interview outweighs the importance of rotation color. Neither GMC nor MedStars required Step 1 for anything.

    Yes, I will post the link to the Wells Fargo Advisors web site when my video is on it. I will post it in this thread.

    Good luck in your studies. Stay away from the casinos and the far end of the island, and read every medical thing you can lay your hands on. Ten times each.
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    fossildoc is offline Moderator 518 points
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    link to award

    Go to
    https://www.wellsfargoadvisors.com/2...-champions.htm

    Click the blue box in the right column, then under the "2010 winners" heading, click Georgia. I'm the guy with the stethescope.
    Brain surgeon to another: "Hey, this isn't rocket science".
    Rocket scientist to another: "Hey, this isn't brain surgery".

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