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    Windsor University School of Medicine - the actual facts

    This school is located in St. Kitts in the Caribbean. Here ,the basic sciences are taught and after words American and Canadian studentsperform the clerkship in Carbondale , Illinois. The school is not accreditedexcept by a small country of 50,000 people that has very poor medical system with no oncologists , or neuro surgeonson the island. This school was founded by Dr. ****** who was its firstPresident but who did not complete a residency. It is a privately own scamschool run by Indian Nationals. Now, it is run by an administrator named R. M. a well know scam artist. It is currently having low enrollment due toits bad reputation and questionable practices.

    The school takes advantage of students due to its openadmissions policy and if you apply you usually will get in. Now, due to its lowenrollment, frequently they will accept students into their Medical Program,After, the student gets admitted there is a good chance they will change thestudent to the pre-med program to make them stay another year and hence, makemore money. Now, once they get there the student will find out that the facultycannot speak English well, and not a single faculty member in St. Kitts haspassed the USMLE BOARDS ! The faculty is primarily Indian and Nigerian.

    It gets worse, many courses have a fail rate of up to 90%,The average failure rate being 70%. This causes the student to have to takeexpensive retakes or repeat a semester generating more money for the school.Grades from the instructor are also not final and may be changed by the Administration.If this wasn’t bad enough exams are frequently sold for either sex or money.Some faculty are more than willing. This is usually, done by students fromNigeria. Now, when a student fails an exam they are not allowed to see the examin most cases and if a special release is given by the dean of student affairsa student can see the exam for $100 dollars but cannot challenge any questions.Again this school is a money making racket. Student are also charge and forcedto take the Beckers course for $1200 MORE than what it takes to take theBeckers review curse directly.

    The school offers student housing, but, understand that Basseterre, and in lousy areas. Understand, St. Kitts is the murder Capital of the Worldevery 2-3 years and in June 2015 , 3 Windsor females where Gang Raped. Anadditional two Windsor females were raped separately and 2 females fromneighboring Ross where raped. Indeed, in June there was a murder in from of the University withthe body left in the street. None of these crimes has been solved nor an arrestmade. The students who come back to the United States are forced to go intostudent housing in Carbondale Illinois. The housing is dirty and cockroachinfested, In June of 2015, a piece of the ceiling fell on a student from herliving quarters and her arm was broken.


    Worse of all the faculty are incompetent and arrogantwithout cause . Recall that none of them have passed the boards. I am nottalking about USMLE 3 but USMLE 1 ! Theyfaculty sit separately from the students at lunch and do not talk to thestudents of course unless you are willing to pay money or have sex for an examwith a third world predator. Let, megive some examples that i know to be true: Some of the comments are included. A Dr. G. stated, to one mother whowas in his office with her daughter to talk to him about retaking an exam sheallegedly had failed but not been allowed to see. Dr. G. stated, "maybeif you didn’t hadn’t given birth to a stupid child we wouldn’t be here. Now getthe hell out of my office" Theyhired a new Dean named C. B. a person who introduces himself as aphysician to the students and tells wonderful stories of his medical practice.Problem is HE NEVER WENT TO MEDICAL SCHOOL! This dean also assaulted a faculty member then fired the faculty memberfor reporting the assault! There is thenthe Dr. C. who said to his class, " your are a bunch of dumbanimals and donkeys and I will fail you all" he subsequently did. Thencomes the Dr. V. the associate Dean of clinical medicine, who has beenfired from his two past jobs for sex with students and sexual assault. Don'tworry his number at Windsor is only four women at this time. Now, maybe theterm doctor is an overstatement for these cretins as they don't have and M.D.or D.O. degree but bachelors of medicine degrees from third world countries.
    Now, if you are a faculty member, they will promise you asalary , terms of a contract but, because it is in St. Kitts and hence they willfrequently break the contract. There have been reports of some staff not beingpaid for 3 months. They natives of St. Kitts are treated like dogs and animals,paid low salaries, forced to work in slave like conditions and fired if theycomplain. There was also an unusual death of a student who had complained acouple of years ago who lived at the Sugar Bay Resort, she turned up dead in aswimming pool that was 4 feet wide , after she complained about the school. Itjust so happened that the Head of Security for Windsor University School ofMedicine was at the resort hotel miles away from where he lives at the scenewhen this occurred.

    Currently, there is an investigation into Windsor Universityfor Money Laundering and Visa fraud. More on this later in the U.S..

    Indeed, the school’s reputation is so bad, that theresidency placement of its graduates is only about 5-10%. This is not a knockon Caribbean Schools as my own physician is very good and went to a school inthe Caribbean and is excellent. However, stay away from Windsor UniversitySchool of Medicine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PnS11 View Post
    that is exaclty what he did.....this article just came out as well....

    he forced the students to get in bed with the admin and unite to refute the claims. but windsor admin has been screwing with students in the past, there's no doubt. i just don't believe all of the trolls that post on here, but we have all dealt with the school before for one reason or another. and a lot of the true issues the school has will now be thrown under the rug assumed to be dr *******'s crazy rants and his effects on "coercing" students (as the article states) into bad mouthing the school with lies.

    if you read the latest article, it is most likely an SGA rep that is speaking on behalf of the students and they're forced to refute the serious allegations because they most likely are true, but inside of all of that are the smaller issues that are still serious, but those are going to be ignored either now or in the future and attributed instead to "failing students" and "bat-poop crazy professors." which kind of sucks.

    windsor gave a US professor a shot and he pooped on everyone. expect windsor to keep importing nigerian and indian profs that have no business teaching as a result of this. it was much cheaper this way, but the quality suffered. now because of one psychotic US prof, the school will stick to the cheaper, less-educated faculty from overseas.
    we all have stories either from ourselves or from people we have ehard from about being "screwed" by admin and there are various true issues with the school that are almost undeniable, but not the junk that was spewed by soto in that manner, as one of the earlier posts mentioned, its as if he went through the entire history of valuemd, took 10 years of complaints and made them all sound current and like HE was deeply affected. BUT i can also say that the reps that spoke to sknvibes and such were not forced by admin to say anything, there were reps there and a few other students, surprisingly they were actually given free reign with the media, yes i know, kinda nuts and hard to believe. simulataneously though, the school does feel responsible for bringing this guy to windsor and for that reason is truly working with the students to properly address basically any issues that anyone brings forward, the students are doing our best to make sure actual issues dont get swept under the rug, much of this has to do with the new dean in wanting to revamp many of the things that made windsor run the way it has for these last few years. It is super unfortunate that this happened with this prof, he was smart and had a lot of good ideas for our school, but his racist antics and other behaviors got in the way. I do have reason to believe that windsor is still bringing other profs in from the US (hopefully this is true, i believe so) and has put another individual incharge of running more formal background checks and such that can hopefully prevent someone like soto coming back. students here right not know that this is our best shot of addressing any issues we may have, and admin knows that this is the time for them to work hard to address all issues with students. this whole things really sucks though, students really feel thrown off these last 2 weeks but are glad that soto is gone. i dont know if hes still on island though.
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    If you had any confusion regarding the identity of the "thedocy":

    About thedocy
    Biography:
    Howard University Graduate, expertise in clinical pharmacology
    Reporter for three newspapers
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    Tennis, dogs, reading, reporter
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    Physician - Scientist
    Real Name:
    ****** ******* MD, PhD, FAIC
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    posted this in the other thread but i'll bring it up here again

    Quote Originally Posted by Prof1 View Post
    About thedocy
    Biography:
    Howard University Graduate, expertise in clinical pharmacology
    Reporter for three newspapers
    Location:
    West Virginia
    Interests:
    Tennis, dogs, reading, reporter
    Occupation:
    Physician - Scientist
    Real Name:
    ****** ******* MD, PhD, FAIC
    i may be playing devil's advocate here but do you really think someone would make a profile with their real information like this? there was the first post made a few days back by another user and that could have been the prof, but this is an exact cut and paste of that post with a new username, when the old one hasn't been banned or anything.

    i'm saying, i think students are making false profiles for this guy now. the first time its likely it was *******. but now a profile with his degrees and real name? that just sounds like someone trying to impersonate him.

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    Go check his profile right now.

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    i can see the profile and that's exactly what im talking about. no one on this forum puts that much information about themselves. everyone tries to stay anon. why would he purposefully let everyone know who he is?

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    i dont believe he cares much about if people know its him. BUT he took the same post and emailed it to the students in med4. its all his words since it came to students from him, as well as some other randomness he decided to say. hes really proud of his previous accomplishments, which honestly he should be, the ones that are true, theres no denying he accomplished some great stuff, and while he was still here, he always used to talk about how he could "make one phone call" and his reputation would allow him to say anything. now i cant say if thats his reasoning now, but who really knows. at this point, we are all exhausted of dealing with his junk, happy to be done with him. im not sure what he hopes to gain from all this. other students feel that at this point, to jus tleave him and his posts alone, probably a good idea. hopefully he moves on with his life.

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    yup thats probably the best thing to do. when the article initially came out, i assumed because students had claimed to have come forward to report the school's behavior that the school was potentially in jeopardy of closing down.

    but now even with the problems "addressed" I feel like the school is going to be under heavy scrutiny by any US affiliated boards that evaluate the school. i don't think allegations like this pop up at every school. and im not speaking of what the whack job ******* said, but instead about grades, money, passing rates, etc.

    i just hope more students continue to do well and don't give evaluation boards any fodder to penalize the school with. because in reality, if the school shutters its doors, admin can always find a new business venture. they'll put up some resistance, but at the end of the day students in all carib schools are expendable, so we have to be careful to not be inside a burning house when it finally collapses ya know?

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    Who says dear friends that Windsor doesn't have qualified faculty??
    Windsor indeed has very qualified faculty members ....Dr.G.PhD (From USA) , Dean of Research in Windsor...Look at his publications ...He has worked with Dr.Hall in Mississippi, Dr.Hall of the Guyton and Hall text book of Physiology...open your Physio textbooks friends..The Dean Dr.B (from USA)is himself a very qualified person...Chair/Director of Gastroenterology, Univ. of South Carolina(immense experience in his field and has so many publications ) . Dr. J , M.D Pathology was Dean himself and head of Pathology department in many reputed Institutes in India ....vast experience and immense knowledge in his subject ....Dr. S (Chair for anatomy ) MBBS,MD Anatomy has immense experience in his field ( To tell you the truth how many of you guys will actually qualify and be selected for the post graduate MD entrance exam in India ??(...its a ratio of 80,000 graduating doctors to 2000 specialization seats for the MD DEGREE(POST GRADUATE(specialization) or MASTER'S degree in India)Dr.S,Chair of Neurosciences ....15 years on the island and founding member of this University...member of so many organizations in Neurosciences..doing a degree again in Medical education and Research right now and Associate Dean of Med. education..Dr.S (Chair of Biochemistry)..has a University Gold medal in MD(Biochemistry) The Provost(Dr.Margoles) is from USA , the Dean is from USA , the Research Dean is from USA ....you guys still complaining for lack of US faculty OR qualified faculty in Windsor?? Just because of a troll??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prof2 View Post
    Who says dear friends that Windsor doesn't have qualified faculty??
    Windsor indeed has very qualified faculty members ....Dr.G.PhD (From USA) , Dean of Research in Windsor...Look at his publications ...He has worked with Dr.Hall in Mississippi, Dr.Hall of the Guyton and Hall text book of Physiology...open your Physio textbooks friends..The Dean Dr.B (from USA)is himself a very qualified person...Chair/Director of Gastroenterology, Univ. of South Carolina(immense experience in his field and has so many publications ) . Dr. J , M.D Pathology was Dean himself and head of Pathology department in many reputed Institutes in India ....vast experience and immense knowledge in his subject ....Dr. S (Chair for anatomy ) MBBS,MD Anatomy has immense experience in his field ( To tell you the truth how many of you guys will actually qualify and be selected for the post graduate MD entrance exam in India ??(...its a ratio of 80,000 graduating doctors to 2000 specialization seats for the MD DEGREE(POST GRADUATE(specialization) or MASTER'S degree in India)Dr.S,Chair of Neurosciences ....15 years on the island and founding member of this University...member of so many organizations in Neurosciences..doing a degree again in Medical education and Research right now and Associate Dean of Med. education..Dr.S (Chair of Biochemistry)..has a University Gold medal in MD(Biochemistry) from the President of India.

    The Provost(Dr.Margoles) is from USA , the Dean is from USA , the Research Dean is from USA ....you guys still complaining for lack of US faculty OR qualified faculty in Windsor?? Just because of a troll??
    i've lost track of which "prof" you are, "prof1" or "prof 2" but you sound like the other half of ******* as in windsor admin trying to rebut everything ******* said. no student knows the qualifications of each and every faculty at windsor. except other windsor faculty. you just gave me a grocery list of everyone's credentials.

    to be fair and neutral, i don't think more than 2 or 3 teachers are actual MDs, whether it be in india, the US, or anywhere else. dr gupta has openly said he is not an MD and instead has a doctorate in microbiology. we all know about the new dean's great accomplishments, but he is not a physician. if either of these two walked into an OR in a US hospital and tried to perform surgery, they would be behind bars. because they are not MDs.

    as wise as dr sunderesh is about many things, not just neuro, he is not an MD. he would be joining gupta and bannan behind bars if he tried to perform surgery at a US hospital. because he is not an MD.

    with all that being said, none of the people from india at our school "sat for the indian national exam." that is why....???? they are not MDs.


    look, the faculty at windsor is not stupid. they are underqualified but they know a good deal about a lot of medically related things. you get what you pay for at windsor, which is subpar tuition for equally subpar education. it is understood after some time that your gonna have to teach yourself the material and if that fails, you will do a review course after the island and hope to pass that way. but windsor is basically a titty bar without the strippers. bunch of 40+ year old men (some women) sitting around, doing nothing, hiding from their wives who are dragged on to the island, and getting paid. all jokes aside, they've remained motionless. the school needed better teachers and resources, not a new class room or a new library. it needed a proper anatomy lab with fresh (weird to say this) cadavers. it needed something that made students feel like it was a real school.

    everyone has a laptop. every one studies in their rooms or the royal study hall. why build a several million dollar library?

    students use dr najeeb, kaplan, pathoma, etc. as their sole learning tools while still on the island. then why pay teachers then? Cut my tuition in half and have no professor. i'll sit in an empty room with my headphones on and listen to the videos while earning classroom hours.

    so the profs aren't even saving money to line their own pockets. they're spending it on a damn library that no one will use. that's worse than using my tuition to gamble at the Marriott or pay stray island monkeys to do dirty things to you in the back of an hbus.

    how about healthy options for lunch on campus? i can't handle my mom's daal and roti at home, the heck do you think i'm gonna pay 15 EC for some kittitian to cook me the same thing?

    i know it's not a vacation, but there smaller things that are much more important to students' well-being that aren't addressed, be it food, transportation, education stuff like cadavers and other programs. SFH doing free pap smears outside of IGA or checking blood pressure is really not all there is to medicine. all that needs to change.

    As for dr. Marg., from my understanding he handles stuff here in the US. he does the clinical stuff and the rotations in the US have gotten a lot better. you got 10 dudes on the island working to make that better, and you're telling me 15 years later all we did was kick the shack lady serving food out so we could build a library? that's the progress they made? maybe Dr M needs to come back to the island and knock some sense into some people there.

    those low passing rates? not going to be fixed with better rotations. most of those students will never see them. fix the stuff on the island first. get people that know what is needed to pass Step 1,2,3 on the island so the curriculum can change accordingly and students have a better shot at passing. The first time they take the exam.

    i don't even know where i'm going with this. but your answer is bull. you just listed the credentials of underqualified teachers, at least when it comes to teaching US and Canadian students for the USMLE.

    what are dr. sandeep's qualifications? you know? the guy making people do apollo program? why would a doctor be doing clerical work in the chicago offices as a physician? it's this type of disorganization that will kill the school. not the dr *******s and cocaine abusing students.
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    Hi Pns11,

    Please go back to Windsor and check credentials for each faculty member I have mentioned ....their degrees, their certificates....If I am not true please report to Value MD to deactivate my account.

    Many of these faculty have been employed recently. You may not heard of them.
    Regards and love,
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