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    Windsor MD 5, May 2014

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    Hey can anyone please let me know what is the starting date for the MD5 for the may 2014 semester for windsor university?

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    I believe it would be May 12th. So get there some time the weekend before that.

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    How many students go from MD4 to MD5 or rather I wanna ask how many of them go to Carbondale compared to staying in St Kitts? Just curious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2900 View Post
    How many students go from MD4 to MD5 or rather I wanna ask how many of them go to Carbondale compared to staying in St Kitts? Just curious.
    If they are US or Canadian students, they most likely come to the States. Mostly Nigerians and other people that can not get a visa for the States end up staying on the Island.

    US and Canadian students that stay behind follow a myth that they are getting hands-on experience and hospital training and usually stay behind for other reasons not really related to academics.

    That being said, fifth semester is a waste no matter where you do it. It will just most likely be more expensive living on the island rather than rural Illinois or Michigan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PnS11 View Post
    If they are US or Canadian students, they most likely come to the States. Mostly Nigerians and other people that can not get a visa for the States end up staying on the Island.

    US and Canadian students that stay behind follow a myth that they are getting hands-on experience and hospital training and usually stay behind for other reasons not really related to academics.

    That being said, fifth semester is a waste no matter where you do it. It will just most likely be more expensive living on the island rather than rural Illinois or Michigan.
    is it true that there's an increment in tuition for clinicals ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PnS11 View Post
    That being said, fifth semester is a waste no matter where you do it. It will just most likely be more expensive living on the island rather than rural Illinois or Michigan.
    Yeah I thought as much about that last part. Do you know how many hours a day we get to study on weekdays there? Is it just an hour or two of classes/review and then you're allowed to study on your own? Because I'm guessing that if you can put in a lot of good time there reviewing and learning the stuff Windsor doesn't cover then you won't need the full 6 months afterwards to take the step.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2900 View Post
    Yeah I thought as much about that last part. Do you know how many hours a day we get to study on weekdays there? Is it just an hour or two of classes/review and then you're allowed to study on your own? Because I'm guessing that if you can put in a lot of good time there reviewing and learning the stuff Windsor doesn't cover then you won't need the full 6 months afterwards to take the step.
    When I was in MD5 that was certainly the case, as it was also for the batches before and immediately after me.

    However, the main reason that it takes windsor students so long to take the step is because even though they have all that free time to study, they don't know how to utilize it.

    The main mistake I see is people doing is spending their entire MD5 going through the videos and annotating into their kaplan books then realizing after 3mos they haven't retained much of anything and didn't really learn too much. I have seen this time and time again and always advise against it.

    After md4 you should never use anything kaplan ever again for step 1. Simple as that, no kaplan books, videos or qbank.

    Here's what to do with your time. This is the time tested successful way to study and be done well within the 3mos:

    1. Buy uworld, FA, DIT, & Pathoma.

    2. Follow the DIT program in order of schedule, but prior to doing whatever section they cover, do every single painful uworld question on it in tutor mode (your score will be terrible, this is normal) and try to commit the concept at the bottom of each question to memory, and try to learn and memorize the clue words in each vignette that point towards a specific differential (eg. "washing-machine murmur", a "rose-gardener", etc).

    3. Then once you have done that, watch the correlating DIT videos and fill out the booklet, it is good at active learning and it will be easier to remember pertinent information from DIT when they teach you something that you've seen a question on.

    4. Do all of those same questions again in tutor mode, this time try even harder to pick up on clues (by highlighting them) that you may have not seen before, and once again commit each concept to memory. Your score wont be perfect but it will be higher than before and that is what we're looking for.

    5. Continue doing 1-4 and incorporate pathoma as needed (make sure to finish it though, it only takes a few days) until the DIT program is complete.

    6. Start doing uworld timed, random a third time over. Use this opportunity to practice your timing skills in finding clues, ruling out wrong answers and getting the right one within the time frame. Also at this point you should be doing around 3-4 blocks per day to build up endurance and make it through UWorld a third time in a relatively short period of time. This test is not just a test of knowledge but one of skill and endurance as well in which you're trying to get as many points as possible within a limited time period. This time only review questions that you got wrong, and don't waste times on ones that are now already cemented into your mind.

    7. Take the exam.



    How to do uworld questions:

    I. First thing is to scroll down and look at the last sentence. Use that to tell, is this a:
    1) Diagnosis question
    2) Treatment Question
    3) Pathophysiology Question
    4) Biostats question
    5) Ethics quesiton
    6) Direct Question

    Sometimes it is the only sentence that matters in the entire vignette. Occasionally there will be questions that are designated for wasting your time, giving you paragraphs of information and then ending with: What is the mechanism of metoprolol? Then you realize you just wasted 25-40s of your life reading useless info. Always start by reading the last line and designating what type of question it is. This will allow your clue searching to be more efficient since you know what type of things to be looking for in the first place.

    II. Skim the answer choices quickly, sometimes you can immediately knock something off of the answers just by looking at them with the last question and that alone makes your job easier and takes some weight off of your shoulders. Knowing what they're looking for, and what the answer choices are will give you a clear picture what what clues you're looking for in the vignette.

    III. Read the Vignette, isolate the clues by highlighting then re-read the last sentence as a reminder and then either pick an answer choice, or if you can't immediately do that then start marking out things that aren't correct. Narrowing it down to 2-3 answers is not a bad thing at all, greatly improves your odds of making a correct guess. Also, don't be concerned because on the real exam you will feel a lot more calm knowing that you WILL have questions that you narrow down to 2-3. This is to be expected and it happens to everyone, this is not novel to you and you are not alone and doing so is not a bad thing. So don't panic, just move on and if you have time later you can come back to it if you need to but don't waste your time on any one question when you can get points on others. Remember that this is also a time/endurance test, they want you to crack but you can't.

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    that took long enough and ended up being a bit off topic so I modified it slightly and made a new thread

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr white View Post
    is it true that there's an increment in tuition for clinicals ?
    There is an increase. You will pay the tuition to the school for the semester, which is $4000. Then you pay the fees for doing rotations with a specific clerkship group. They are per week fees most of the time, but you will pay the school beforehand.

    Quote Originally Posted by 2900 View Post
    Yeah I thought as much about that last part. Do you know how many hours a day we get to study on weekdays there? Is it just an hour or two of classes/review and then you're allowed to study on your own? Because I'm guessing that if you can put in a lot of good time there reviewing and learning the stuff Windsor doesn't cover then you won't need the full 6 months afterwards to take the step.
    It's an hour or two of classes a week. Barely. You have every waking minute for four months to study your own thing. The people and teachers there do not care if you read a chapter of First Aid or do six lines of cocaine. The world is yours.

    It can most definitely trim down the time post-MD5 to study for the Step if you use the time wisely.
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