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    Windsor students who aced da beast aka step 1, please post advice here!

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    post here plz.
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    UWorld (multiple times) + DIT + FA

    also there is more to being a physician than scores, a WHOLE LOT more. This includes speaking proper english as a professional. Using da as the makes you look uneducated and unprofessional

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    What houmd said. It's a tested formula and it works.

    I used DIT (2 times), First aid (~ 3 times, more for weak sections) and kaplan (only pharm though - my weak area). I managed to do about 80% of Uworld before my test - but I would recommend doing the whole thing, multiple times if you can. Do it in timed, random, mixed blocks.

    Also, i did 4 or 5 NBME forms to gauge my level of preparation at different times. I used the study guide that was in DIT 2012. In the end, I scored above the national avg. on my 1st try (but I took 6 months after MD 5 to write the STEP - which I think was too much time).

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    - Get a good foundation on the island. Don't rely on repeats for island tests or you'll be stuck studying for this exam for years like so many windsor kids. Read the thick books, watch kaplan, whatever works for you. Main point is: Put in hours.

    Before MD5: Write an NBME (any of them). This will likely be a slap in your face and will get you studying.

    In md5 and beyond:
    1. First Aid - dont annotate the whole world into this book. I've seen way too many students do it and it just becomes intimidating when you're in the last few days before your test and all you see is a bunch of random notes. Everything you need to know for the exam is in this book.

    2. UWORLD (Random, Timed, Unused). - dont touch UWORLD until you know what you're doing. Its a learning tool, but that doesnt mean go through it 5 times and have the questions memorized and not know the fundamentals. I would recommend going through it once, then doing only the ones you got wrong again.

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    thank you

    Thank you for all your input. However, can you please tell me the scores of your nbme at the beginning of Md5 and how much the scores improved with the use of suggested methods?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brown_munda View Post
    Thank you for all your input. However, can you please tell me the scores of your nbme at the beginning of Md5 and how much the scores improved with the use of suggested methods?
    At the beginning of MD5, my NBME was borderline pass (i think) with the old passing score of 188. The minimum score required now is 192. The last NBME I wrote a week or so before Step 1 was around 235.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gre View Post
    At the beginning of MD5, my NBME was borderline pass (i think) with the old passing score of 188. The minimum score required now is 192. The last NBME I wrote a week or so before Step 1 was around 235.

    Are you a transfer student that transferred to Windsor for MD5? Because I find it highly unlikely that a Windsor student scored a 180+ on an NBME at the beginning or at the end of MD 5.

    I don't mean to be rude, but I just had to ask.

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    What semester do you guys use UWorld if you use it?

    And starting in MD2, where is the best source for questions in terms of QBanks?

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    Some use it during the classes they are taking. Others wait until MD5 when they are reviewing. And some until after MD 5 when they are also reviewing. It all depends on how you're trying to learn. Are you trying to learn it right the first time through so that you can take your Step earlier, or are you going to learn basic science enough to just get by the Windsor exams and then go back and relearn the right way and double your time?

    Neither way is "wrong" but coming into the MD program in MD1 can have some students feeling like they'll be the best students in the world when they are in med school and will stay on top of everything and study in their rooms 24/7 and leave the island just as quickly as they came. But many students also ** themselves thinking that it will last more than the first week. After the first block, the majority of the students begin to slack off or give up.

    Sorry to paint such a glum picture, but it is the reality. And it's important that you realize this coming so that you can be honest with yourself as to what type of student you are and what resources will benefit you more and the most. UWorld seems a bit ambitious for an MD1. But some students started in MD1 or 2 (which is early, if you ask me) but were very well prepared to take the Step after MD5. You don't really know who starts Qbanks unless they actually tell you. And the competitive nature of medical school coupled with the scumbagginess of many desis on the island will really just build a smokescreen of what others are doing and how it's working for them.

    So if you think that you are learning for the Step while on the island, you're going to need to do a lot more than Qbanks. You will also need to do a lot more than the professor's slides for the exams and even just skimming First Aid, which should be a given. If you are not reviewing every week's load at the end of the week, and then previous weeks' loads throughout the semester, you will be doing a whole lot of busy work that will ultimately yield nothing more than frustration. If you do the lecture videos, read the books for most of your classes (for some classes, the book is useless), and review your notes, then Qbanks come in handy. Because they look you in the eye and ask you "do you really know this ish?" And if you're just taking a stab in the dark, you're wasting the questions (because there is a finite amount) and your time since most of it won't sink in.

    As you do Qbanks, you should also be annotating your First Aid. So if you do not have time to do this during Basic Sciences, then don't waste the questions.

    Long story short, probably no. Unless you have such a strong science background prior to Windsor that you can afford to shirk on some learning of the basics in class in order to do questions, you should probably just stick to the BRS questions and just constant review.

    Some "very intelligent person" has made a thread here asking for old exams. Horrible idea, but such people exist. The professors read this forum and most definitely have seen that topic, as well as other topics regarding those, and last semester's exams were all changed for all classes.

    Why is this important? Because if students truly used those exams to review concepts instead of memorizing answers, those exams were useful. Instead, people used them as a lifeline to get through Windsor, and so now all of Windsor's exams have changed so prepare to be blindsided by some questions that are just as nonsensical as the old ones were (because they were drawn up by professors with poor English skills) but won't be familiar/repeated.

    I went on a tangent, but this is basically my post welcoming the new MD1 class to Windsor on their first day of school.

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    My NBME at the end of 5th semester was 211, PnS. Not as uncommon as you might think if someone was to use their time in MD5 properly.

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