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    Hello everyone,

    I am a new student starting in May 2011 for the MD program . Anyone else on here attending?

    I have a few questions if someone could please answer.

    1) I read on here that males have difficulty getting greenbook OB/GYN rotations. Is this true? And if so, does it affect residency placements that require all greenbook?

    2) The university says that they provide books. Do we need to purchase any other books though?

    Thanks!

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    I can't comment on #1

    As far as #2 is concerned the school makes you pay a $300US deposit for the books so that you can "borrow" them each semester. It is often problematic at the beginning of the semester because not everyone has returned their previous semester's books and thus you might end up waiting a while just to get your textbook.

    Just go on amazon.com and buy textbooks of your own for each course. I honestly recommend it. You don't need the latest edition for the books so you can get them pretty cheap.

    Also for the textbooks I have followed McNasty's guide (few exceptions like embryo) and it has been successful for me so I recommend that others do the same. You can find his Textbook Guide Here

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    Thanks houmd.

    Can anyone else comment on my first question please? Is this true? Is this a major concern? How will I be limited by not doing greenbook OB/GYN?

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    Quote Originally Posted by melloyello View Post
    Thanks houmd.

    Can anyone else comment on my first question please? Is this true? Is this a major concern? How will I be limited by not doing greenbook OB/GYN?
    From what I understand, you're not going to need ALL rotations to be greenbook in order to be looked at for residency. The way it was explained to me is that greenbook is really only necessary if you're looking at getting a residency in that same field (ie, if you're looking at doing family med residency, you'd definitely want a greenbook family med rotation but no one will care if you don't have an ob/gyn greenbook rotation). I doubt you'd be scrutinized for not having one non-greenbook rotation. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but that's how I understand it.

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    Greenbook rotations really only come into play at one point in time which is when you apply for permanent licensure. Certain states (Illinois for example) require that the student's entire core rotations be greenbook in order to obtain a permanent license in that state. Other states (much less) require that all cores and electives be greenbook. It is advisable to (at minimum) do all your core rotations at greenbook sites, and preferably all your electives at greenbooks as well.

    However, with that said, what I've also heard is consistent with what swoll has posted. When it comes to residency, they are not going to like it if your rotation in that field was not at a hospital based program with a residency program in that specialty. It's not going to help you at all, but the residency program itself is not going to scrutinize against rotations specialties different from that residency.

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    houmd, I called the Illinois state board three times and spoke to three different people, none of them said that all my cores needed to be greenbook. Where did you hear that they all had to be greenbook?

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    I suggest doing everything GreenBook

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    Interesting, this is the page I am citing from the illinois board

    According to my interpretation they want your cores to have been in a teaching hospital that has a residency program in that specialty accredited by the AOA, ACGME, or the Canadian Accrediting bodies.

    Here's the link
    The page is referring to Core rotations in which the school has an affiliation with.

    "Clinical teaching facilities are defined as those that meet or exceed the requirements of Section 1285.40 or that are part of a residency program accredited by the Accreditation Council for Graduate Medical Education (ACGME), the American Osteopathic Association (AOA), the College of Family Physicians of Canada, the Royal College of Physicians and Surgeons of Canada or the Federation of Medical Licensing Authorities of Canada"

    Later on this page they also say this is a requirement for license applications "Certification on forms provided by the Division that the core clerkship rotations were completed in accordance with Section 1285.20 of this Part and proof of current ECFMG certification as set forth in Section 1285.20(k) for those applicants who are applying under Section 11(A)(2)(a) of the Act;"

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    Quote Originally Posted by soniaa View Post
    I suggest doing everything GreenBook
    How can we do everything greenbook, if Windsor doesn't allow males to do ob/gyn greenbook?

    Should a prospective student be very concerned about this?

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