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    Note To All High School Graduates

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    Those Of You Trying To Take The Shortcut
    Please Note
    SEVERAL (NOT ALL) States Require 60-90 Credits (2-3 Years) Of Undergraduate Course Work For Licensure In The US

    Get An Undergraduate Degree from the US or CANADA Before Coming Here !
    Completing All 10 Semesters At Windsor Will Get You An MD Degree, But What's The Point Of Having An MD Without A Residency !

    Think Before You Apply
    Do Thorough Research
    Don't Just Come Here Because Your Parents Want You To Be In Medical School !!
    Last edited by windsorMD; 12-09-2008 at 10:01 PM.
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    Is this true? Why don't they mention this at the presentations and such ? Anyone else know?

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    no its not true...
    i enjoy posting false information...
    cmon now..

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    How about the 6-year (and 5-year in China) medical school program for those out of high school? Those are recognized in the States, I believe.


    But I think the difference is that Windsor is following the North American model -- so are the undergrad courses required?

    Does Windsor have the authority/accreditation to offer "undergraduate" courses? And are these courses recognized by other schools worldwide? If so, then taking the premed undergrad courses at Windsor may be okay.

    Still, to be safe, why take the chance?

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    High School to Medical School

    Going straight from high to medical....is so wrong for so many different reasons. Get an undergraduate degree....please
    "Just because you don't believe in it...doesn't mean it isn't true" Hidden Content


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    Quote Originally Posted by windsorMD View Post
    Those Of You Trying To Take The Shortcut
    Please Note
    All States Require 60-90 Credits (2-3 Years) Of Undergraduate Course Work For Licensure In The Us

    Get An Undergraduate Degree from the US or CANADA Before Coming Here !
    Completing All 10 Semesters At Windsor Will Get You An Md Degree, But What's The Point Of Having An Md Without A Residency !

    Think Before You Apply
    Do Thorough Research
    Don't Just Come Here Because Your Parents Want You To Be In Medical School !!

    How can you support this statement? I have done my research and found that nowhere it says that 60-90 credits is required in undgrad for residency.
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    well, this is by no means to discourage u from starting windsor
    however here is the New York State board medical licensure requirements website --> NYS Medicine Requirements
    if u still dont know what im talking about
    here is a direct quote from the site below
    Education Requirements

    To satisfy the education requirements for licensure as a physician, you must present evidence of both A and B below.
    1. Preprofessional Education: Satisfactory completion of 60 semester hours of college study from a New York State registered program or the equivalent as determined by the New York State Education Department.
    2. Professional Education:
      1. Graduates of Registered or Accredited Medical Programs Satisfactory completion of a medical program registered by the New York State Education Department as licensure-qualifying* or accredited by the Liaison Committee on Medical Education (LCME) or the American Osteopathic Association (AOA) and have received the degree of Doctor of Medicine, Doctor of Osteopathy, or the equivalent.
        *Does not include schools outside the U.S. that have received Department approval solely to contract for medical clinical experiences (clerkships) in New York State.
      2. Graduates of Non-accredited Medical Programs Satisfactory completion of the following:
        • A curriculum of not less than 32 months (4 academic years) in a medical program recognized as an acceptable educational program for physicians by the appropriate civil authorities of the country in which the school is located and receipt of the degree of Doctor of Medicine, Doctor of Osteopathy, or the equivalent as determined by the Department. You must complete the final year of medical education at the school that awarded you the degree.
        • A satisfactory proficiency examination. Educational Commission for Foreign Medical Graduates (ECFMG) certification will satisfy this requirement.
    PLEASE DON'T BE OBLIVIOUS TO THE FACTS

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    Listen to windsorMD, he is right; if you plan on going to the Carib, do your undergrad here in the states first. Caribbean med schools are not licensed to grant undergrad degrees, just medical dilpomas. Therefore, states that require certain undergrad credits/classes will not recognize your Caribbean undergrad courses, just your MD; so it's essentially useless.

    Europe is different, because 1) the school's garner a bit more respect due to the fact they have many international students (SOCRATES exchance program), and 2) are hundreds of years old. Also, the curriculum has 2 years that are equivelant to our premed, just a bit more rigorous. There are no states I'm aware of that would not consider a European modeled education unsatisfactory (however, California only approved 5 English-language European schools).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Future_student View Post
    How can you support this statement? I have done my research and found that nowhere it says that 60-90 credits is required in undgrad for residency.
    I've emphasised residency because you need to be aware that not all states regulate residency as stringently as full/permanent licensure.
    http://www.valuemd.com/state-medical...licensure.html

    The thread above, although specifically about state boards attitude to online coursework, does highlight the distinction quite well.
    In other words, they might let you be a resident but never allow you a full licence. So you need to be very sure of a state's policy on granting the latter.
    Last edited by diogenes; 07-11-2007 at 09:22 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by diogenes View Post
    I've emphasised residency because you need to be aware that not all states regulate residency as stringently as full/permanent licensure.
    http://www.valuemd.com/state-medical...licensure.html

    The thread above, although specifically about state boards attitude to online coursework, does highlight the distinction quite well.
    In other words, they might let you be a resident but never allow you a full licence. So you need to be very sure of a state's policy on granting the latter.

    Thats like a completely different topic..

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