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    Note To All High School Graduates

    Those Of You Trying To Take The Shortcut
    Please Note
    SEVERAL (NOT ALL) States Require 60-90 Credits (2-3 Years) Of Undergraduate Course Work For Licensure In The US

    Get An Undergraduate Degree from the US or CANADA Before Coming Here !
    Completing All 10 Semesters At Windsor Will Get You An MD Degree, But What's The Point Of Having An MD Without A Residency !

    Think Before You Apply
    Do Thorough Research
    Don't Just Come Here Because Your Parents Want You To Be In Medical School !!
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    Quote Originally Posted by windsorMD View Post
    well, this is by no means to discourage u from starting windsor
    however here is the New York State board medical licensure requirements website --> NYS Medicine Requirements
    if u still dont know what im talking about
    here is a direct quote from the site below
    Education Requirements

    To satisfy the education requirements for licensure as a physician, you must present evidence of both A and B below.
    1. Preprofessional Education: Satisfactory completion of 60 semester hours of college study from a New York State registered program or the equivalent as determined by the New York State Education Department.
    2. Professional Education:
      1. Graduates of Registered or Accredited Medical Programs Satisfactory completion of a medical program registered by the New York State Education Department as licensure-qualifying* or accredited by the Liaison Committee on Medical Education (LCME) or the American Osteopathic Association (AOA) and have received the degree of Doctor of Medicine, Doctor of Osteopathy, or the equivalent.
        *Does not include schools outside the U.S. that have received Department approval solely to contract for medical clinical experiences (clerkships) in New York State.
      2. Graduates of Non-accredited Medical Programs Satisfactory completion of the following:
        • A curriculum of not less than 32 months (4 academic years) in a medical program recognized as an acceptable educational program for physicians by the appropriate civil authorities of the country in which the school is located and receipt of the degree of Doctor of Medicine, Doctor of Osteopathy, or the equivalent as determined by the Department. You must complete the final year of medical education at the school that awarded you the degree.
        • A satisfactory proficiency examination. Educational Commission for Foreign Medical Graduates (ECFMG) certification will satisfy this requirement.
    PLEASE DON'T BE OBLIVIOUS TO THE FACTS
    This might be true for New York, but the states I have checked do not require it, and also same for Ontario, so its all good. Also, the requirements might be different for IMG's and that is not clear whether the 60 credits is for IMG's or US/Candians' . Going from high school to medical school does not exist only in few uncommon places, there are tons of students doing it (even in the US) and are having no problems at getting residency, so I'm not going to be considering this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Future_student View Post
    Thats like a completely different topic..
    It's not that confusing! Nor was it irrelevant.
    1. The original post from windsorMD was about licensure.
    2. Your reply which I quoted spoke of your "research" into "residency" prereqs., not licensure. These were your words.
    3. I wondered, reasonably enough, if you were aware of how licensure regulations can be tougher than those for residency.
    4. In case you didn't know the above I used that thread as an example to illustrate how the criteria can differ.
    5. I made it clear that this example was specifically about another set of prereqs.
      but had illustrative value nevertheless.
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    kids these days..
    never listen

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    i wasnt here
    Last edited by Future_student; 04-09-2008 at 03:36 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Future_student View Post
    ?? I did not say its confusing, but what does online courses have to do with this? I dont know who is taking an online course.. so why do I need to be aware of licensure regulations for an online medical course? Yes it does refer to lincesure regulations but does not relate anyway to having 60-90 undgrad credits or not.. doesn't answer the question.
    Don't use "confused" smileys if you're not confused. But your latest response shows you are a bit confused: but I can't make it any easier for you.
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    You know whats best, if you want to come straight from high school, do it...don't cry, don't complain for not saying you were warned. Its simple, you can come straight from high school, get a license in one of a small handful of states and happily work...but god forbid your spouse or for other economic reasons you have to move to another state, they check you you don't have the requirements and are unable to practice unless you go back to uni for some credits...

    Now your thinking...oh thats no problem...I will go back to uni if I have to make up missing credits AFTER I become a doctor...yea...thats the master plan that never works...

    Also, for you ladies and gents that have ideas of coming back to Ontario, not trying to burst your bubble, but its VERY hard to come back to Canada to practice...not saying impossible...but VERY hard...

    Point is, don't limit yourself by coming straight from high school with dreams of being a physician by the age of 22 when down the road another year or two of uni could have been beneficial

    WindsorMD has a solid point that lots of people are ignorant to understand.


    The school isnt trying to lie to you, you CAN get a job, but dont be picky about the state down the road, nor the pay connected to your job in the state you really didnt have a choice on choosing.

    So many people in Premed keep saying how they want to practice in NYC, or other big states when they fail to realize that just showing your MD degree isnt enough to work..you need undergrad credits from undergrad.

    In the end, do your own research.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Future_student View Post
    Thats like a completely different topic..
    Are you dense? What's the point of a residency if you can't get licensure; what's the point of licensure if you can't get residency? The two are intrinsically linked, so it is not a completely different topic.

    You know what, I think you should go to the Carib for pre-med.

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    I like this post. I too am a firm believer in an full undergraduate education

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quash View Post
    I like this post. I too am a firm believer in an full undergraduate education
    undergrad is great..
    you get to have more alphabets after ur name tooo
    and who doesnt like alphabets ?!

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    ooooooooooooops
    Last edited by Future_student; 04-09-2008 at 03:34 PM.

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