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    Have any Pre-Med students graduated and ended up with residency?

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    Hey guys, I am looking into going to Windsor but what I'm worried about is landing residency at the end of the day. I have read that it is close to impossible to get residency if you don't have an undergrad degree. Has there been any Pre-Med students from the past that have ended up with residency ? And if so what are the odds of someone getting a match. I don't want to get into something that I will regret later. I am looking to start this January my application is still in process but I don't want to risk anything with my future. If anyone has any info on this please get back to me and let me know whatever you can. Thank You.

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    Google Windsor University School of Medicine Produces Profits, But Few Doctors...

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    Dontgo, this article has been brought up on here a multitude of times. At least try to find some new material to muck up on an old post.

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    At this point in the game, with SO many DO's about to graduate in the US, landing a residency here as an IMG will be next to impossible. I would recommend doing getting an undergrad degree and trying to get into a US or Canadian med school. Its already gotten very competitive and a lot of really good candidates didn't match this year into IM or FM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MTrue View Post
    At this point in the game, with SO many DO's about to graduate in the US, landing a residency here as an IMG will be next to impossible. I would recommend doing getting an undergrad degree and trying to get into a US or Canadian med school. Its already gotten very competitive and a lot of really good candidates didn't match this year into IM or FM.
    define "good" candidates.

    a 220 is the bare minimum an IMG should walk into the match with (on Step 1) to have a shot at matching. many windsor kids score below this and like to think they're still competitive because the average score of the step is 220 by US grads. so a 215 isn't bad for an IMG, but don't let someone tell you that it's a good score to hope to land a residency with.

    most applicants are stil clueless on how and where to apply. they don't apply to programs intelligently. coming out of the caribbean, you should expect a psych/ped/FM spot. unless you score above a 230. then you're being somewhat realistic for IM and above. when you apply for FM programs, especially with a windsor student's step score of sub-220, you apply to literally hundreds of programs and pray for a call. i have heard of many students thinking 50 is enough. or 100 is enough. you can go hunting for their posts here on VMD, they're on here. I don't know if they matched, but they still didn't apply smart.

    know your step score, and know your limits with it. 220 isn't going to get you surgery at a university program. you probably have a 50/50 shot at matching at any FM program, assuming you apply to 150 plus and get calls back.

    yes, more people are applying while the spots remain the same and are even going down. no one can tell you what a "good score" is to match. even with a 230, if you apply to 100 derm programs and that's it, you probably won't get calls, forget matching. you apply to 100 programs in each specialty that is within your step score vicinity and you should apply to at least 200+ overall. just because few score 250+, doesn't mean you shoot to just pass the step and expect to match. it doesn't work like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shabbir_m786 View Post
    Hey guys, I am looking into going to Windsor but what I'm worried about is landing residency at the end of the day. I have read that it is close to impossible to get residency if you don't have an undergrad degree. Has there been any Pre-Med students from the past that have ended up with residency ? And if so what are the odds of someone getting a match. I don't want to get into something that I will regret later. I am looking to start this January my application is still in process but I don't want to risk anything with my future. If anyone has any info on this please get back to me and let me know whatever you can. Thank You.
    I'm not sure of the numbers, but I think getting a license to practice would be more of a problem than residency. If you don't have at least 1-2 years of undergrad, not many states will accept you.

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