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    i recently accepted to apr program, can some one give me an info abute the program......like exam, essyness,
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    I suggest you stop trolling on this website. There are people with legitimate concerns about their future and you are playing around with that fact for some reason. You said you got accepted to the ARP program at 7:39 pm and on the same day at 7:50 pm you ask what your chances are of acceptance to this university.......

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    lol Terp

    the quality of trolls is really on the decline... tsk tsk
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    Hello Team up,

    First of all congrats on your acceptance. The program is supposed to help students get acclimated to med school by "brushing up" on some of the premedical courses. However after putting forth my blood, sweat and tears, I found the program to be unrealistic. The program consists of 17 exams, about 1 to 4 week courses and 1 or 2 exams per week. You are given a large amount of information per class, you are not taught the information (get used to YouTube) and then tested unfairly (scour through large PowerPoint files looking for needles in haystack details, USMLE style test questions that most are not used to but you better learn the style fast!). Only about 3 professors were really good and actually taught well. The gatekeepers of the program are a husband and wife team that teach most of the classes, both of whom are extremely boring teachers. Although they are nice people like most of the professors, they were NOT good teachers. Most of the professors here are English speaking so that was the only plus. For your sake, I hope you have strong background in Chemistry, Physics and Math because if you don't, you will NOT pass the program. If you do pass the program, you will feel like you were dragged through hell and back. A 70 gets you into a 5 semester med program, an 80 for a 4 semester program. It's good for some but not for everyone. Best of luck to you.
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    dud trust me i do get accepted to APR, and ya i do get voice message from umhs, dont be like that i just ask for info dud....if you know any thing about program please let me know..i do understand your concern

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrAWOL View Post
    Hello Team up,

    First of all congrats on your acceptance. The program is supposed to help students get acclimated to med school by "brushing up" on some of the premedical courses. However after putting forth my blood, sweat and tears, I found the program to be unrealistic. The program consists of 17 exams, about 1 to 4 week courses and 1 or 2 exams per week. You are given a large amount of information per class, you are not taught the information (get used to YouTube) and then tested unfairly (scour through large PowerPoint files looking for needles in haystack details, USMLE style test questions that most are not used to but you better learn the style fast!). Only about 3 professors were really good and actually taught well. The gatekeepers of the program are a husband and wife team that teach most of the classes, both of whom are extremely boring teachers. Although they are nice people like most of the professors, they were NOT good teachers. Most of the professors here are English speaking so that was the only plus. For your sake, I hope you have strong background in Chemistry, Physics and Math because if you don't, you will NOT pass the program. If you do pass the program, you will feel like you were dragged through hell and back. A 70 gets you into a 5 semester med program, an 80 for a 4 semester program. It's good for some but not for everyone. Best of luck to you.
    thank you very much for info, this will help me a lot.....does this info from your own experience???

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrAWOL View Post
    Hello Team up,

    First of all congrats on your acceptance. The program is supposed to help students get acclimated to med school by "brushing up" on some of the premedical courses. However after putting forth my blood, sweat and tears, I found the program to be unrealistic. The program consists of 17 exams, about 1 to 4 week courses and 1 or 2 exams per week. You are given a large amount of information per class, you are not taught the information (get used to YouTube) and then tested unfairly (scour through large PowerPoint files looking for needles in haystack details, USMLE style test questions that most are not used to but you better learn the style fast!). Only about 3 professors were really good and actually taught well. The gatekeepers of the program are a husband and wife team that teach most of the classes, both of whom are extremely boring teachers. Although they are nice people like most of the professors, they were NOT good teachers. Most of the professors here are English speaking so that was the only plus. For your sake, I hope you have strong background in Chemistry, Physics and Math because if you don't, you will NOT pass the program. If you do pass the program, you will feel like you were dragged through hell and back. A 70 gets you into a 5 semester med program, an 80 for a 4 semester program. It's good for some but not for everyone. Best of luck to you.
    You know what sucks? The fact that you were given a full semester to redeem your averages with the help of every professor at your doorstep. I went through the ARP program and I'm going to be blunt with you. You don't belong in medical school if you're going to complain (and not even pass with a 70) about one of the easiest pre-med programs in the Caribbean.

    No, the course director and his wife are NOT the only teachers in the program. One teaches organic/pharmacology and the other teaches microbiology/math. They have changed the format around since I was there which is more than a few semesters ago.

    No, you are NOT given a large amount of information. You are given a very small introduction to what medical school is all about. If you can't handle 100-200 slides for Physio during 4 weeks then you have no right to be in medical school. Coming to the Caribbean you should know that you CANNOT rely on your professors to spoon feed you the material. That is 100% your job as a responsible adult to learn what you didn't understand in class and ask for help on your own time.

    No, most people ARE used to the question format because you were CONSTANTLY warned by your TAs to do practice questions after you go over the material and there are plenty of free resources with the UMHS dropbox to help you through that. Plus, all the questions asked in ARP were simple 1st/2nd order questions that required simple regurgitation from the powerpoint. If you can't handle that, then you can't handle medical school and the pace it moves at.

    No, you ARE taught the information. The professors teaching the courses are taught by the SAME professors teaching the courses to med students (with the exception of a few due to time conflicts/personal choice). Any good ARP student would either record the lecture or take good notes and after he/she gets home he/she would go over the notes to stay on top of everything. You have 3 classes MAX for Christ sake, you're done before noon (at times), you have no excuse to fall behind.

    No, you DON'T need a strong background in Chemistry, Physics and Math. You need a good work ethic and you need to learn to use your TAs and professors @ office hours. It's common sense. You don't understand a topic? Facebook or talk to your TA and IF they don't help you understand it, visit your professor who is more than willing to help you understand it. I was always poor in gen/orgo chemistry but I worked my *** off to pass that block and used my TAs advice of doing practice questions and by going to review sessions. Besides, if you do poor in Orgo/Gen chem, Physics, Math, etc, you have 13 other courses to bring your overall grade up.

    Instead of spewing out all this bulls***, because you failed at being a productive student, please give an honest review of the program so prospective students know how it really goes down.
    Last edited by mulberry; 08-11-2014 at 07:30 PM.

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    You know what sucks? I do know what sucks, your reading comprehension.

    “Redeem your averages”- Nothing to “redeem”. I never had a poor average.

    “and not even pass with a 70”- I did pass, and gave my honest opinion about the program. You see opinions are like ***holes, everyone has one. You my friend are like an opinion.

    “about one of the easiest pre-med programs in the Caribbean”-
    Firstly, It’s not a premed program, it’s an accelerated review program covering block one of every medical school course (Anatomy, Anatomy Lab, Physiology, Epidemiology, Genetics, Histology, Biochemistry, Cell Biology, Microbiology, Pharmacology, Immunology, Behavioral Science) plus all medical school prerequisite courses (Gen Chem, Org Chem, Physics, and Medical Math).
    So you did an epidemiological study on all of the Caribbean pre-med programs and after peer reviews and trials you determined this one was the “easiest”? Really?

    “No, the course director and his wife are NOT the only teachers in the program”-
    I stated, they were a “team that teach most of the classes” – they key here is MOST. 25% of the total points of the program are taught by the “team”.

    “They have changed the format around since I was there which is more than a few semesters ago”-
    I heard they did change the program because people like yourself were making it through only to fail out in the Med program. Lucky for you, you got by when the program was easy.

    “No, you are NOT given a large amount of information. You are given a very small introduction to what medical school is all about. If you can't handle 100-200 slides for Physio during 4 weeks then you have no right to be in medical school-
    I wouldn't call Block one of each class "a small introduction", but you prove my previous point, I was given 400-500 slides in a 3 week course all while taking other classes.

    “Coming to the Caribbean you should know that you CANNOT rely on your professors to spoon feed you the material. That is 100% your job as a responsible adult to learn what you didn't understand in class and ask for help on your own time.”-
    I wasn’t born with silver spoons nor do I expect them. I get what I give, but the poster wanted to know what to expect and I told them the truth.

    “No, most people ARE used to the question format because you were CONSTANTLY warned by your TAs to do practice questions after you go over the material and there are plenty of free resources with the UMHS dropbox to help you through that”
    -USMLE style second and third order questions are not taught in class or in college. Someone with no experience in this style is going to have to deal with that, plus the info. Wow, you had a TA? They don't offer that anymore.

    “Plus, all the questions asked in ARP were simple 1st/2nd order questions that required simple regurgitation from the powerpoint. If you can't handle that, then you can't handle medical school and the pace it moves at.”-
    No wonder you made it! Maybe it was for you, but not anymore. Nothing was simple first order or regurgitation of information. Like I said earlier they had to raise the bar because people like you were skating through ARP and failing out later.

    "You have 3 classes MAX for Christ sake, you're done before noon (at times), you have no excuse to fall behind"-
    I was never done at noon. It seems like you had the easy track when the school first started and needed warm bodies, while people transferred to the med program from other schools and raised the schools USMLE pass rate.
    3-4 classes a day, 5 days a week equates to about 20 semester hours just so you know.

    “No, you DON'T need a strong background in Chemistry, Physics and Math. You need a good work ethic and you need to learn to use your TAs and professors @ office hours”-
    Ah yeah, you do. Most medical school courses and entrance to medical schools require it.
    You must of felt like a princess with all the TA talk, and you mention spoon fed??

    “It's common sense. You don't understand a topic? Facebook or talk to your TA and IF they don't help you understand it, visit your professor who is more than willing to help you understand it”-
    If you don’t know this already…Common sense isn’t too common! You for one prove this point. Here we go with the silver spoon TA talk again…

    “I was always poor in gen/orgo chemistry but I worked my *** off to pass that block and used my TAs advice of doing practice questions and by going to review sessions.” –
    Wow, did the TA live with you too?? Did they assist after you went potty?

    “Instead of spewing out all this bulls***, because you failed at being a productive student, please give an honest review of the program so prospective students know how it really goes down”-
    Actually, I didn’t fail. Others did. So you really need to work on that reading comprehension thing. I’d suggest you talk to your TA about that!
    You want the truth! You obviously can’t handle the truth! The only bull I saw was the one the bus passed on the way to school as it swerved to not hit that goat, or run over that monkey running down the street! “And that’s the double truth, Ruth!”

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    Lol @ this butt hurt individual using Microsoft word to type up a novel to prove his/her point. Anyone with a brain can decipher "However after putting forth my blood, sweat and tears, I found the program to be unrealistic" = you failed ARP, followed by b******* and complaining about how awful the program is. Stop lying to the forum. I'm actually still on campus, and was in the September ARP program. If you want, feel free to mention your name so you can meet me and say all of this again, in person. Let's go, my inbox is waiting.

    Yes, ARP in UMHS is the easiest to pass. I don't need to do a peer review (lol) to know this. Most schools require much more than a 2.0 (70%) to advance into med school. Pre-med, or for lay people like yourself, before medical. It wasn't a "review" since 90% of the classes in the program were not taken in undergrad by a traditional premed. Not to mention, the course schedule is available on the m-drive and it's nearly identical. I'm looking at it right now and there were weeks when you were done before noon. Again, stop lying to the forum

    They didn't change the program and how tough it is. Another lie. You know how I know this? The same percentage of people that failed out when I was in ARP has been consistent with each following semester. The TAs are still there for every ARP class, so you're lying yet again. My friend this semester is an ARP tutor. Keep making yourself looking like like a fool. TAs don't spoon feed you, they do exactly what I said. Why don't you scroll up and reevaluate your "reading comprehension". A smart student uses all of his available resources. Why else would they implement the TA system?

    ARP is not block 1 of each class, who are you trying to kid? Classes like genetics, immuno, ethics, etc are one week courses. The other 3 week courses give the highest-of-the-highest high yield material from the entire semester, not just first block. You wouldn't know that since you didn't pass ARP. Understandable. No single class in ARP has 400-500 slides, I just looked on the m-drive. Power points from Micro and Physio, for example, are the exact same from the time I took it. Another lie.
    Last edited by mulberry; 08-14-2014 at 02:05 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mulberry View Post
    Lol @ this butt hurt individual using Microsoft word to type up a novel to prove his/her point. Anyone with a brain can decipher "However after putting forth my blood, sweat and tears, I found the program to be unrealistic" = you failed ARP, followed by b******* and complaining about how awful the program is. Stop lying to the forum. I'm actually still on campus, and was in the September ARP program. If you want, feel free to mention your name so you can meet me and say all of this again, in person. Let's go, my inbox is waiting.

    Yes, ARP in UMHS is the easiest to pass. I don't need to do a peer review (lol) to know this. Most schools require much more than a 2.0 (70%) to advance into med school. Pre-med, or for lay people like yourself, before medical. It wasn't a "review" since 90% of the classes in the program were not taken in undergrad by a traditional premed. Not to mention, the course schedule is available on the m-drive and it's nearly identical. I'm looking at it right now and there were weeks when you were done before noon. Again, stop lying to the forum

    They didn't change the program and how tough it is. Another lie. You know how I know this? The same percentage of people that failed out when I was in ARP has been consistent with each following semester. The TAs are still there for every ARP class, so you're lying yet again. My friend this semester is an ARP tutor. Keep making yourself looking like like a fool. TAs don't spoon feed you, they do exactly what I said. Why don't you scroll up and reevaluate your "reading comprehension". A smart student uses all of his available resources. Why else would they implement the TA system?

    ARP is not block 1 of each class, who are you trying to kid? Classes like genetics, immuno, ethics, etc are one week courses. The other 3 week courses give the highest-of-the-highest high yield material from the entire semester, not just first block. You wouldn't know that since you didn't pass ARP. Understandable. No single class in ARP has 400-500 slides, I just looked on the m-drive. Power points from Micro and Physio, for example, are the exact same from the time I took it. Another lie.
    According to you I failed out, but shouldn't you be preparing for Block exams? Instead of returning novels to my post.

    Everyone has a brain, but some (like yourself) fail to use the small percentage that is available for use.

    Assume what you will. If you wish you can PM me your name and a picture and I'll be certain to look for you.You can puff out your chest like a puffer fish if you want, and I'll be happy to pop it like a balloon. Or, you can continue to hide behind the mulberry bush.

    Why are you still on this board anyway? or at UMHS for that matter. Posting since 2009?? It's almost 2015 for Christ's sake!

    Shouldn't you be in residency?? You were in September ARP, and your in EBS 2? What you only got by with a 2.0? Couldn't get the 3.0 for Med1 in the easiest program in the world?

    No wonder your jumping around with your poms poms and skirt.

    After all of that partying and failing, and this being your last ditch effort to do something with your life I guess it's understandable that you wear a UMHS t-shirt to school everyday.

    By the way the program is called "Accelerated Review Program", ARP is just an acronym. Sorry to use the big words.

    About the getting out at noon thing. One week we got out at noon a few days. One of them we were in at 8am. The other three we had to unofficially go to the Anatomy Lab and practice on the cadavers. So stop twisting the truth.

    What you call a TA system is a one hour review before a test given by different students. Some were good, some not. There is no program TA available for questions, etc. The students have their own work to do and are only available on a limited basis to the 30 ARP students.Great to know your friend is one. Why not you? Oh right, the partying, posting, pom poms, and poor performance doesn't leave much time.


    Most classes are not 400-500 slides, but if you don't believe me ask any ARP student about the "no single" class that had 150 slides per week.

    The one week classes you refer to have 100 slides in a week. Micro slides were put on the M drive on a daily basis as they were revised and not ready until we arrived in class.

    So, no they aren't the same. So now that the facts are all straight you can go back to grabbing your poms poms and prance around St. Kitts and cyberspace. S.P.I.R.I.T. We got the spirit, let's hear it!

    By the way, what shade of lipstick do you wear?

    *This post was written on Notepad*

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