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    Requesting an update on state approval and questions about greenbook rotations

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    UMHS Official stated in the earlier thread that "If all goes well, the University could potentially have Florida approval by July or September 2012."
    I was wondering if that is still a realistic estimate.
    What about NY approval? Can't UMHS start applying for NY approval now?


    Also, if UMHS gains approval halfway through my clinical rotation, can I spend more than 12 weeks in NY for my clinical rotation?


    Can someone tell me more about greenbook rotations? What are its implications?
    What is the difference between blue and green rotations?
    Does UMHS has all greenbook rotations?


    Also, because UMHS is not yet NY and FL approved, does that mean that the students that are doing or did their clinical rotations have to move around A LOT? In which hospitals are most students from UMHS placed?

    Answers to any of the questions above will be greatly appreciated. Thank you!


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    UMHS official, Can you update on Florida and NY State approvals? Did the school apply for these yet? Any time-frame on approval?

    Thank you !!

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    I was on a teleconference yesterday with UHMS administration and faculty. It was a candid and informative discussion. Mr. R. indicated that as things stand now, UMHS grads can practice in 49/50 states by obtaining first licenses in some states then applying for licensure in their desired state(s). Application for NY approval is in sight. Mr. R. further stated that UMHS is focusing on the following states in this order:

    1. Georgia
    2. Florida
    3. NY (with an estimated timeline by the end of this year).
    4. And ultimately CA.

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    So UMHS will be NY approved by the end of this year? I heard a lot of students are having to do bluebook rotations, thus making them ineligible for a license in certain states. Any truth to this?

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    I think they are going to apply for NY approval around the end of the year, as it wasn't confirmed that they would be NY approved by the end of this year. I don't know the details about bluebook/greenbook, perhaps some current students with more experience in this regard can chime in.

    What I understood, and I may be wrong, is that even if you are unable to consolidate all greenbook core rotations you can still apply for licensure in certain states and after obtaining your license in a certain state you can apply for licensure and obtain it in more desirable states (i.e. NY etc..). Someone please correct me if this information is inaccurate.
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    Just to let you know having NY approval alone will not make you eligible to do more than 12 weeks. That 12 week rule is to "Non-Affiliated" sites, which means to do more than 12 weeks you need to have a NY affiliation to do them at.
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    Medic is correct in his statement


    Further I wanted to point out that upon graduation from UMHS and obtaining a permanent license in a state you will not be able to practice in 49/50 states. You will still be restricted from practicing in any states that currently follow the california list (eg. Tennessee). New York is one of those states allowing reciprocity but not all states are as generous as there are a few not allowing it based entirely off of the CA list. Check with your state medical board to find out whether or not you will be able to practice within that state

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    AUA was able to gain NY approval within 2 years of opening. Correct me if I'm wrong but UMHS has been open for almost 4 years now, so why is UMHS lagging so far behind?
    Last edited by acknowledge; 03-03-2012 at 12:17 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acknowledge View Post
    AUA was able to gain NY approval within 2 years of opening. Correct me if I'm wrong but UMHS has been open for almost 4 years now, so why is UMHS lagging so far behind?
    AUA was opened in 2004. UMHS was opened in 2008. AUA didn't get approval till last year (2011). So it took them about 7 years. We'll see how long it takes us. They had a head start.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UtahMan1 View Post
    AUA was opened in 2004. UMHS was opened in 2008. AUA didn't get approval till last year (2011). So it took them about 7 years. We'll see how long it takes us. They had a head start.
    UtahMan1, you are correct that AUA obtained CA approval in 2011. However, acknowledge indicated that AUA obtained NY approval within 2 years of opening.

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