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    Atlanta Rotations for UMHS

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    Okay so thought I would give an update for UMHS students regarding ATL rotations.

    Generally UMHS students are rotating with Ross Uni. students, in fact Ross and Dekalb admin are pretty much in charge of appointing UMHS students their spots.

    We primarily do rotations in clinics around the ATL area, however typically the attending that you rotate with will go to the hospital at Dekalb atleast once a week.
    I just finished Ob/Gyn. My typical week was mon-thrus clinic work at attendings office.

    Tuesdays either myself or the Ross student that rotated with me were 1st assist on OB/gyn surgeries at Dekalb Hospital. We also had a 24 hr oncall day at Dekalb Hospital each week.

    Our attending was excellent(he is an associate Professor for Gerogia Medical College). We spent 1 hr each morning pretty much being pimped in his office on topics he wanted us to cover. Afterward we would go in individually to either Ob or GYN pts. Do an history/physical and assesment on pts.

    Typically Students here are one on one with attendings therefore we get treated like residents in terms of responsibilities as well as learning experience as long as you can prove to your attending that you are willing to learn and work hard.

    Pretty much anyone that has passed the steps from my class is here in ATL doing various rotations and really have loved it.

    Only real problem here is that we typically get told what our next rotation is like on the last day.
    The admin in UMHS is aware of this problem and do say they are working on it. Its just b/c Ross admin and Dekalb admin are in charge of rotation setup its kinda outta our admin hands here in ATL.

    Another thing is that clinic here are located all over atl and therefore there is allot driving that has to be done. I would recommend living in centeral ATl either Midtown or Decatur just because that way u are in the middle of everything so typically any rotation u are assigned to may only be 20 min drive away...or else i know some students that drive 1hr each way every day...

    Whats Greenbook in ATL:
    Dekalb- Green book for OBGYN, Peds, Family
    Psych is greenbook at a different Hospital.

    Umbrella Greenbook(hence rotations here are not themselves greenbook):

    IM, Surgery and Pysch at Dekalb.

    The Dekalb admin and Ross admin had a meeting with students indicating that by end of sept IM at Dekalb would become greenbook. But for now its still under umbrella.
    Basic Sci [x], Step1 [x], IM[x], OB/GYN[x], FM [x], Peds[In process]

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    Quote Originally Posted by iMED View Post
    Okay so thought I would give an update for UMHS students regarding ATL rotations.

    Generally UMHS students are rotating with Ross Uni. students, in fact Ross and Dekalb admin are pretty much in charge of appointing UMHS students their spots.

    We primarily do rotations in clinics around the ATL area, however typically the attending that you rotate with will go to the hospital at Dekalb atleast once a week.
    I just finished Ob/Gyn. My typical week was mon-thrus clinic work at attendings office.

    Tuesdays either myself or the Ross student that rotated with me were 1st assist on OB/gyn surgeries at Dekalb Hospital. We also had a 24 hr oncall day at Dekalb Hospital each week.

    Our attending was excellent(he is an associate Professor for Gerogia Medical College). We spent 1 hr each morning pretty much being pimped in his office on topics he wanted us to cover. Afterward we would go in individually to either Ob or GYN pts. Do an history/physical and assesment on pts.

    Typically Students here are one on one with attendings therefore we get treated like residents in terms of responsibilities as well as learning experience as long as you can prove to your attending that you are willing to learn and work hard.

    Pretty much anyone that has passed the steps from my class is here in ATL doing various rotations and really have loved it.

    Only real problem here is that we typically get told what our next rotation is like on the last day.
    The admin in UMHS is aware of this problem and do say they are working on it. Its just b/c Ross admin and Dekalb admin are in charge of rotation setup its kinda outta our admin hands here in ATL.

    Another thing is that clinic here are located all over atl and therefore there is allot driving that has to be done. I would recommend living in centeral ATl either Midtown or Decatur just because that way u are in the middle of everything so typically any rotation u are assigned to may only be 20 min drive away...or else i know some students that drive 1hr each way every day...

    Whats Greenbook in ATL:
    Dekalb- Green book for OBGYN, Peds, Family
    Psych is greenbook at a different Hospital.

    Umbrella Greenbook(hence rotations here are not themselves greenbook):

    IM, Surgery and Pysch at Dekalb.

    The Dekalb admin and Ross admin had a meeting with students indicating that by end of sept IM at Dekalb would become greenbook. But for now its still under umbrella.
    thanks for the info imed!!...Is it normal for rotations like this to be done more in the clinics instead of the hospital?..bc its seems like you spend more time in outpatient settings.
    Also since IM is blue book for now, where did u have to go to get it done?....Thanks imed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kula View Post
    thanks for the info imed!!...Is it normal for rotations like this to be done more in the clinics instead of the hospital?..bc its seems like you spend more time in outpatient settings.
    Also since IM is blue book for now, where did u have to go to get it done?....Thanks imed.
    Np...
    I did my IM in NYC...I have a post up regarding it under Mount Vernon Hospital.
    I have a friend who did her OB/GYN and IM in Detroit which as wall Inpatient.

    Atlanta rotations for Ob/gyn, Peds, and family typically seem to be more outpatient then inpatient. But really does depend on your attending. For example I know a student who was doing OBGYN, and his Attending was part of a group of 5 that rotated at Dekalb medical center each day...so what this student pretty much did was each day he would rotate with one member of the group so he was typically at the hospital everyday from 7am to 8pm 5 days a week plus had 1 call a week...so experience can really vary...
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    it seems like it would nice to have more practice in hospital settings than just clinics, but i guess it just varies for atlanta, like u said. I was askin all this, cause i am waitin for my results to come and was looking into atlanta rotations, but i had no idea that most of it was outpatient stuff. Won't the students in say like the Detroit rotations get more experience and see more than Atl rotations bc of seeing more inpatient cases?...was just a thought..

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    Quote Originally Posted by iMED View Post
    Okay so thought I would give an update for UMHS students regarding ATL rotations.

    Generally UMHS students are rotating with Ross Uni. students, in fact Ross and Dekalb admin are pretty much in charge of appointing UMHS students their spots.

    We primarily do rotations in clinics around the ATL area, however typically the attending that you rotate with will go to the hospital at Dekalb atleast once a week.
    I just finished Ob/Gyn. My typical week was mon-thrus clinic work at attendings office.

    Tuesdays either myself or the Ross student that rotated with me were 1st assist on OB/gyn surgeries at Dekalb Hospital. We also had a 24 hr oncall day at Dekalb Hospital each week.

    Our attending was excellent(he is an associate Professor for Gerogia Medical College). We spent 1 hr each morning pretty much being pimped in his office on topics he wanted us to cover. Afterward we would go in individually to either Ob or GYN pts. Do an history/physical and assesment on pts.

    Typically Students here are one on one with attendings therefore we get treated like residents in terms of responsibilities as well as learning experience as long as you can prove to your attending that you are willing to learn and work hard.

    Pretty much anyone that has passed the steps from my class is here in ATL doing various rotations and really have loved it.

    Only real problem here is that we typically get told what our next rotation is like on the last day.
    The admin in UMHS is aware of this problem and do say they are working on it. Its just b/c Ross admin and Dekalb admin are in charge of rotation setup its kinda outta our admin hands here in ATL.

    Another thing is that clinic here are located all over atl and therefore there is allot driving that has to be done. I would recommend living in centeral ATl either Midtown or Decatur just because that way u are in the middle of everything so typically any rotation u are assigned to may only be 20 min drive away...or else i know some students that drive 1hr each way every day...

    Whats Greenbook in ATL:
    Dekalb- Green book for OBGYN, Peds, Family
    Psych is greenbook at a different Hospital.

    Umbrella Greenbook(hence rotations here are not themselves greenbook):

    IM, Surgery and Pysch at Dekalb.

    The Dekalb admin and Ross admin had a meeting with students indicating that by end of sept IM at Dekalb would become greenbook. But for now its still under umbrella.
    i'm sorry, but how is this greenbook?? you are in an outside clinic and are with just an attending? are you with any residents? are there residents in clinic with you? Are you saying that there are family medicine residents at DeKalb and that is making your clinic experience green? I ran through the ACGME Family programs in Ga and none of them have residents that rotate through DeKalb... That is only true if the clinic is a direct clinic for DeKalb and not just the attending's office.

    in fact, the only residents i see are OB pgy-3s from the Medical College of Ga and Peds residents from Morehouse...you can check here

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    Quote Originally Posted by kula View Post
    Also since IM is blue book for now, where did u have to go to get it done?....Thanks imed.
    blue book means its an AOA (ie DO) rotation...they don't just become ACGME(ie Greenbook).
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    Quote Originally Posted by rokshana View Post
    i'm sorry, but how is this greenbook?? you are in an outside clinic and are with just an attending? are you with any residents? are there residents in clinic with you? Are you saying that there are family medicine residents at DeKalb and that is making your clinic experience green? I ran through the ACGME Family programs in Ga and none of them have residents that rotate through DeKalb... That is only true if the clinic is a direct clinic for DeKalb and not just the attending's office.

    in fact, the only residents i see are OB pgy-3s from the Medical College of Ga and Peds residents from Morehouse...you can check here

    ACGME Accredited Program and Institutional Listing - Public Access
    i'd like to know what is going on here too. i think dekalb is only green for OB and peds, as per what is listed on acgme website.

    there are NO programs in the state of georgia that sends FM residents to dekalb, so it can't be green for FM.

    i don't really care about having all green cores, because the states i want to work in do not require them, but i'd at least like to have rotations under FM umbrella.. if there is no FM residency at dekalb, medicine/surgery/family/psych can't be under an umbrella!

    *by the way, i hear psych has been reclassified and is no longer greenbook at inner harbor

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    for NY its gotta be all green cores and elective is by choice depending on what you want?
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    Quote Originally Posted by cee View Post
    i'd like to know what is going on here too. i think dekalb is only green for OB and peds, as per what is listed on acgme website.

    there are NO programs in the state of georgia that sends FM residents to dekalb, so it can't be green for FM.

    i don't really care about having all green cores, because the states i want to work in do not require them, but i'd at least like to have rotations under FM umbrella.. if there is no FM residency at dekalb, medicine/surgery/family/psych can't be under an umbrella!

    *by the way, i hear psych has been reclassified and is no longer greenbook at inner harbor
    Good you are asking questions. Just call up the clinical coordinator, the hospitals and check the acgme website yourself. It will help you. I know the UMHS brand has done has ok job to establish itself but it is still a business. Come tuition time they will collect your money, you will complain about tuition going up but people do not even have the courage to ask questions and research what they are paying (the endless rat race is still on).

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    Quote Originally Posted by kyeremak View Post
    Good you are asking questions. Just call up the clinical coordinator, the hospitals and check the acgme website yourself. It will help you. I know the UMHS brand has done has ok job to establish itself but it is still a business. Come tuition time they will collect your money, you will complain about tuition going up but people do not even have the courage to ask questions and research what they are paying (the endless rat race is still on).

    True ! real money does not exist, therefore the money you pay for this service is based on the value it is to you. So if you have put a certain value on the amount you pay for this service and you do not even ask what you are really paying for then I don't know what to say to you. Trust me ! it takes time but you got to start thinking for yourself and be your own advocate.

    Research everything yourself and don't take anyone's word for it. Trust but verify the information.

    I learnt along time ago ROKSHANA is right on most issues but I always verify the information I receive. ROKSHANA might be right on this one.
    If you search AMA Fredia. Dekalb is listed as a participant under family medicine for Georgia Health Sciences University ( formerly MCG). So it is technically Green for FM

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