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    Uag school of medicine, the truth

    For those new applicants looking into UAG school of medicine, my advise is to stay away from this school. Do not believe what their admissions staff or users on value md, some of which are school employees pretending to be students, claim. Please look over my past posts for more details. I will also create a series of y-tube vids with additional information and provide a link to those interested,,, comments to these vids will be disabled. Also I am not recommending another medical school in the Caribbean or elsewhere,,,, I'm basically suggesting,, do not go to UAG,,, that's all
    Last edited by jods; 03-21-2018 at 05:31 PM.
    Class to DR M, why are u doing this to usHidden Content . Dr M to class, the ECFMG is responsible for all the problems at UAG,our step 2 passing rate is 99%, step 1 first time pass rate is 86% and over 90 % match rate.

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    No real student would write anything positive about the school. Once you are at UAG you realize how everything is wrong but you are there and you have to just move forward and hope for the best. Nothing makes sense there you will always be surprised again and again its that type of organization. For those students that make it, its all about them their hard work and determination nothing to do with the school they don't care or do anything to help students its a business. Of course school employees will attack now with fake profiles and outrage.
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    As a current UAG student, I'll say this: The school is screwed. Its a money drainage system meant to collect funds for the family owners and their own personal ventures. But beyond that, there is one strength: Its the cheapest offshore school you can go to if you've been rejected out of all other medical schools. Amongst all the people complaining, people never seem to want to admit that we are here at UAG because our application fell short in one way or another preventing us from attending a school with a better reputation. So if you're here because you want to be a doctor, suck it up, play the game, and do your best to get out. It's possible, and a lot of people manage to do it. It just depends on how hungry you are for it.
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    Dear potential students,

    Today we are writing you on behalf of a majority of the student body here at the Universidad Autonoma de Guadalajara school of medicine. We are writing you in the hopes that future students will not be in the same situation that we are. As students at an international school complaints are often times repressed; for fear of losing educational loans and of damaging our school´s reputation before trying to match. However, due to the current administration´s unethical actions, we are writing you in hopes you can urge all your members to urge students to apply to other schools other than the Universidad Autonoma de Guadalajara. While international schools are a reality for many U.S. premedical students, the current environment is far from welcoming for any student far less a U.S. medical student. We have attached below photos of the cadavers used in our classes. Students here do not have access to dissection, histology labs, or microbiology labs. It is not in the curriculum, despite tuition for students here up to 4 times what national students pay. The administration is abusing its relationship with U.S. students, and we are writing you to urge you to advise students of the environment here. We hope to present facts in an unbiased manner, and allow you to form your own conclusions.
    Our concerns are the following:

    1. Licenciado Castillo, the dean, dissolved the student government in 2014, and regularly refuses to meet with students. Regardless of his intentions, not allowing doctoral level students a voice in an education they are paying for will not resound well for the reputation of the program nor to possible future students. He constantly lies to the student body, as evidenced by his email to a student here explaining the North American Student Government is not allowed to exist due to legal issues. It is widely used on its website, and can be seen here. . We have attached below the email from the dean stating the above organization does not exist.

    2. It has been brought to our attention that one of our instructors, Dra. Ana Mesa, is not accredited with the National Registry of Professionals here in Mexico. Due to her lack of knowledge of the material and of her nonexistence in the National Registry of Professionals. It has been stated that the school has hired her without credentials, either as a cheaper method or as a political favor to her mother who is a politician here. All doctors are registered in the national system. A quick search will show she does not exist in the system, however all the other professors are in the system.

    3. Multiple times in the last year, students have been told they would be arrested if they left the hospital because their school insurance was not paid nor valid. We are being charged tuition, but multiple students have been told the insurance is not up to payment. Along with the added stress of undergoing a medical treatment, the students are also having to deal with the threat of being arrested in a foreign country. This is not an isolated event, but a common occurrence with the school.

    4. The current curriculum does not have dissections for current international students. The dean has stated current laws do not allow for new bodies, however national students at this private school have dissection as a part of their curriculum. Also, almost every U.S. based medical school has countless anatomy hours as well as dissections in order to better understand the human body. We are also aware of our larger tuition than national students, and do not understand why we are not allowed dissections nor use of the histology labs.

    5. The current dean has hired many professors who are not qualified to teach doctoral level medical students. Many of the current professors do not have specialties or post graduate education, however are trying to teach the material at a level in order to pass the United States Medical License Exam. The medical structure is different in Mexico than in the United States. In Mexico, many students enter medical school after high school. After finishing, they take an exam to qualify for a specialty. This exam is commonly agreed upon to be easier than the USMLE exam. Students who fair poorly on this exam still retain the title of doctor and are qualified to immediately be a general practitioner. A majority of the new professors hired by the dean, Licenciado Castillo, are freshly graduated medical students from Mexico who where unable to attain a specialty and have no experience. Many of the students complain over the poor knowledge and selection of professors, but the administration continues hiring under qualified professors.

    6. The school is advertising on its recruitment website services that it does not offer. Their are currently no USMLE coaching services offered, there is no North American Student Organization, or alumni mentoring services. Students have never been told of the services, neither are alumni aware of these, yet they are being marketed to potential future students. Recently, at a premedical conference at the campus, all of these services were promoted as existing. Students were chosen and told not to divulge damaging information to the premedical advisors.

    7. During the spring of 2018, semesters starting their clinical rotations in Mexico did not have their clinical hospitals setup for the start of the year. In a meeting with Licenciado Castillo, the dean repeatedly made fun of the students over their MCAT and GPA. The students have heard this story from the fifth semester students and are bothered by how the dean would treat students.

    8. In the last two years, many Professors have left the University. Many professors would not with hold their poor opinions of the dean, or of the block coordinator Doctor Mesa. Many students are alarmed at the information professors are telling them over the leadership of the current dean Licenciado Castillo. This is the environment that students unknowingly enter, with the medical admissions staff, a majority never visiting the UAG campus for more than a day, promising many things that are far from the truth.

    9. Current fourth semester students did not have their clinical skills classes. For a reason unbeknownst to us, classes were canceled despite being charged tuition for them. Also, the students are aware their clinical skills classes are a requirement in order for the school to have USMLE passing rates below 75%. With the current match rate of 55%, less than 40% of our graduating class will become doctors. The graph on the website is very misleading, as non-matching students are left out of the statistics.

    10. A former student of UAG started an organization to help disadvantaged communities around Mexico, GUIMEDIC. She has helped many students practice and learn medicine, and has always been an incredibly beneficial relationship to international medical students at UAG. Licenciado Castillo did not value that relationship, and threatened Dra. Carolina Zuheill with a lawsuit. Rather than helping to continue that beneficial relationship with GUIMEDIC, Licenciado Castillo tried to end it.

    11. The current medical library closes on the weekends and most coffee shops are closed before 10pm here. Finding a spot to study outside of your apartment can be difficult at night here in Guadalajara. There are plenty of Carribean schools who have libraries that our open during the weekends. Please let this factor into your decision.

    We hope you will forward this information to all of your constituents. We are writing this email anonymously out of fear of repercussions from the dean, Licenciado Castillo. However, if you need any additional help verifying any of the above points or additional questions, we are more than able to validate the accuracy of the above statements or respond to additional questions. We believe the abuses of the relationship between UAG and U.S. students has been going on long enough, and hope that this deters future students from attending this international medical school, as we strongly believe better options exist.
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    thats just awful

    wow. one day that will catch up to them if its true.
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    1. Licenciado Castillo, the dean, dissolved the student government in 2014, and regularly refuses to meet with students. Regardless of his intentions, not allowing doctoral level students a voice in an education they are paying for will not resound well for the reputation of the program nor to possible future students. He constantly lies to the student body, as evidenced by his email to a student here explaining the North American Student Government is not allowed to exist due to legal issues. It is widely used on its website, and can be seen here. . We have attached below the email from the dean stating the above organization does not exist. -------------WOW, I remember when this guy used to work in Albany, back then he was a decent guy. After I was expelled from the university and filed my litigation case against the school, the new owners moved him down to Mexico. Since then it appears the lies, corruption and malevolent inclination to deceive students, the US department of Education and the american taxpayer has taken its toll. I was last in Mexico in early 2014 and was beginning to hear rumors but was unsure if they were true. I suspect the deliberate removal of the student government was the work of the schools owners who only intended on perpetrating an illusion that students deserve any degree of civil rights, assistance, or respect
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    Class to DR M, why are u doing this to usHidden Content . Dr M to class, the ECFMG is responsible for all the problems at UAG,our step 2 passing rate is 99%, step 1 first time pass rate is 86% and over 90 % match rate.

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    Regarding NASA, I remember most of the NASA reps defending the schools corruption, in fact, I would argue most of them demonstrated loyalty toward the school, so it's somewhat surprising they banned the organization unless a generation of students reps began to actually represent students instead of corrupt university officials
    Class to DR M, why are u doing this to usHidden Content . Dr M to class, the ECFMG is responsible for all the problems at UAG,our step 2 passing rate is 99%, step 1 first time pass rate is 86% and over 90 % match rate.

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    even if everything you say is 100% accurate, it still does not excuse the school for its mistreatment of students and use of fraudulent advertising
    Class to DR M, why are u doing this to usHidden Content . Dr M to class, the ECFMG is responsible for all the problems at UAG,our step 2 passing rate is 99%, step 1 first time pass rate is 86% and over 90 % match rate.

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    also keep in mind, the dean is simply a figurehead with very little real power, its SL and her father that make all the important decision regarding the medical school, they are the owners
    Class to DR M, why are u doing this to usHidden Content . Dr M to class, the ECFMG is responsible for all the problems at UAG,our step 2 passing rate is 99%, step 1 first time pass rate is 86% and over 90 % match rate.

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