Thread: Swine Flu in Perspective

Originally Posted by TexasStudent

I would like to write a lot more than what I will write now, but I think that I will save it for much later.

The media are owned by the same small groups of people who own pharmaceutical companies, chemical companies, oil, banking, and others. The media have no obligation to tell the truth; this was actually a ruling in a US court case. Ted Turner, who was forced out of CNN, will also tell you that the US media are nothing but government propaganda. And the US media influence the reporting in other countries.

While people are running scared and buying drugs because of swine flu, the same powerful people mentioned above are making a killing (no pun intended) on the sales of tamiflu and other drugs. In addition, these drugs are in fact harmful and can result in many health problems, including death. Many people still don't know that the former Sec. of Defense was the Chairman and CEO, prior to taking office, of the company that makes tamiflu. He is still a large shareholder in the company.

A story like this also gives currency traders the opportunity to make huge profits from the declining peso. Again, the people making profits from this are those already mentioned. There are other examples as well.

Also, creating fear, through a lie, can force people into accepting government controls over the people that they would never otherwise accept. Keep in mind that when democracy was established in the US, there was a large group of the population that was against it. The descendents of these people still are against it. I mentioned here before how the former presidents of Canada, US, and MX were meeting secretly to discuss plans to form one country from the three (The North American Union). The people would never accept this, unless some fear is created, so that when the people are looking to their governments for a solution, they are provided with the very solution that they would not have accepted otherwise.

If you believe the CDC that 100 people die and 600 are hospitalized every day in the US from influenza, why is there such an uproar over this swine flu that is reportedly killing less people? Think about that?

While we are panicking over this, we forget also (or never knew for most people) that most drugs, by the manufacturers' own admission, cause flu-like symptoms; or that pesticides are sprayed on planes before and during flight; or that the government, by their own admission, is regularly spraying cities with chemicals (supposedly to control pests). We are ignorant to many of these things which are known to cause sickness in humans, so that when the media report anything we are quick to accept what they tell us. We are so quick to believe that some dna and proteins that are inherent to animals are causing harm, while never realizing that the plethora of man-made chemicals that do not exist in nature that we are exposed to are harmless. And throughout this all, humans are being affected, yet the other animals of this planet are not. The last thing that they want people to know is that it is their drugs that are killing people, so they use the perfect scapegoat, animal dna and protein. I say wake up people!

In my mind, it is no coincidence that the media started reporting this right after the presidents of both countries met. What did they really discuss?

If people were to start spending time observing what is happening in the skies above us, they would notice some very unusual things; however, because our line of vision does not project upward, we remain ignorant to some serious things that are taking place. This is more than I wanted to write and still I have more to write; maybe in a few weeks I will add more.

I meant to say that the plethora of man-made chemicals are harmful, not harmless.

One hundred, multi-infected, old, immunocompromised, or immunologically immature (babies) dying of influenza-related complications is "normal." One, ten, or one hundred young, healthy adults dying directly from the influenza is not normal. That is where the concern is.

Originally Posted by TexasStudent

I would like to write a lot more than what I will write now, but I think that I will save it for much later.

The media are owned by the same small groups of people who own pharmaceutical companies, chemical companies, oil, banking, and others. The media have no obligation to tell the truth; this was actually a ruling in a US court case. Ted Turner, who was forced out of CNN, will also tell you that the US media are nothing but government propaganda. And the US media influence the reporting in other countries.

While people are running scared and buying drugs because of swine flu, the same powerful people mentioned above are making a killing (no pun intended) on the sales of tamiflu and other drugs. In addition, these drugs are in fact harmful and can result in many health problems, including death. Many people still don't know that the former Sec. of Defense was the Chairman and CEO, prior to taking office, of the company that makes tamiflu. He is still a large shareholder in the company.

A story like this also gives currency traders the opportunity to make huge profits from the declining peso. Again, the people making profits from this are those already mentioned. There are other examples as well.

Also, creating fear, through a lie, can force people into accepting government controls over the people that they would never otherwise accept. Keep in mind that when democracy was established in the US, there was a large group of the population that was against it. The descendents of these people still are against it. I mentioned here before how the former presidents of Canada, US, and MX were meeting secretly to discuss plans to form one country from the three (The North American Union). The people would never accept this, unless some fear is created, so that when the people are looking to their governments for a solution, they are provided with the very solution that they would not have accepted otherwise.

If you believe the CDC that 100 people die and 600 are hospitalized every day in the US from influenza, why is there such an uproar over this swine flu that is reportedly killing less people? Think about that?

While we are panicking over this, we forget also (or never knew for most people) that most drugs, by the manufacturers' own admission, cause flu-like symptoms; or that pesticides are sprayed on planes before and during flight; or that the government, by their own admission, is regularly spraying cities with chemicals (supposedly to control pests). We are ignorant to many of these things which are known to cause sickness in humans, so that when the media report anything we are quick to accept what they tell us. We are so quick to believe that some dna and proteins that are inherent to animals are causing harm, while never realizing that the plethora of man-made chemicals that do not exist in nature that we are exposed to are harmless. And throughout this all, humans are being affected, yet the other animals of this planet are not. The last thing that they want people to know is that it is their drugs that are killing people, so they use the perfect scapegoat, animal dna and protein. I say wake up people!

In my mind, it is no coincidence that the media started reporting this right after the presidents of both countries met. What did they really discuss?

If people were to start spending time observing what is happening in the skies above us, they would notice some very unusual things; however, because our line of vision does not project upward, we remain ignorant to some serious things that are taking place. This is more than I wanted to write and still I have more to write; maybe in a few weeks I will add more.

Seriously? What semester are you in? Have you had micro yet?!

Originally Posted by TexasStudent

We are so quick to believe that some dna and proteins that are inherent to animals are causing harm, while never realizing that the plethora of man-made chemicals that do not exist in nature that we are exposed to are harmless.

Originally Posted by tcatx

Seriously? What semester are you in? Have you had micro yet?!

Do you know that the same powerful people mentioned before also control what is taught in medical schools? I use common sense to draw my conclusions; I don't need to be brainwashed. Just like most doctors believe that vitamin C in large doses is toxic, I know differently because of my personal experiences with the vitamin, because of my knowledge of how the body uses vitamin C, and because I am privy to an abundance of research that says otherwise. For example, practically all doctors are unaware that vitamin C is a successful treatment for diabetes. Researchers from all over the world discovered this decades ago, but the pharma-controlled media have suppressed this information.
Vitamin C and Carbohydrate Metabolism : Abstract : Nature
http://www.jbc.org/cgi/reprint/116/2/489.pdf

Now, you can say that none of these studies prove anything or that I am crazy, but don't kid yourself. When you study the literature like I have and then you apply what you learn and then see the same results, it is not crazy. I have seen relatives of mine in both hypoglycemic and hyperglycemic states quickly regain normal blood glucose levels when given vitamin C on the order of several thousand mg po. That's right, both hypo and hyper! If you were privy to the tons of research that was done, you would know this. This is why I know that their blood glucose levels would be restored to normal. And this is why diabetic drugs are able to lower blood sugar, because they are similar in structure (at least part of the molecule is) to vitamin C.

Micro does not explain how a country like Africa with so many people can have so many healthy babies. Have you thought about that? How is it that a country with so many diseases can have an ever-growing population? If the women are ridden with disease and disease is so abundant in the environment, how can they deliver healthy babies that lead to an ever-growing population? According to micro, these babies should not be born or if they are born, should not make it to adulthood to produce more babies. The fact is that Africa is a country where many of the people are without proper nutrition, and poor nutrition leads to destruction of the body. This is simple chemistry and simple biochemistry (both subjects I studied prior to going to medical school). Vitamins compose the active sites of enzymes in the body. If you lack vitamins, you lack enzyme function, which leads to destruction of the body. This is why Harvard researchers found in their study of HIV-infected women in Africa that a simple multivitamin delays the progression of AIDS. But you would never know this because the media didn't report these findings. If it were a drug, it would be headlines all over the world.
A randomized trial of multivitamin supplements and...[N Engl J Med. 2004] - PubMed Result

You should not be quick to criticize my knowledge of micro; maybe you should consider the fact that I may be very knowledgable in what I am saying. How do I obtain this knowlege? I go looking for it, and as they say, "seek and ye shall find." If I learn chemistry and biology and then am told something that contradicts the basic teachings of science, I don't accept it; I research it.

Are you trying to say that chemicals have no role at all in the sickness that is caused on this planet? Pick any drug at random and you will discover a ton of side-effects. Do these side-effects not result in any disease process? Here is an example of how using a common class of drugs can lead to other problems. Ca-channel blockers are used commonly in hypertension. But guess what? All smooth muscle cells have Ca channels as well. This means that the drug will affect other parts of the body. If you block Ca channels in the larynx, you develop sleep apnea. You will also lose penile function because there are smooth muscles involved in erection. The way big pharma has turned this around is to say that hypertension leads to sleep apnea; so it is not their drug that causes it, it is hypertension that causes it. That is the way the game is played. I can give many more examples of where doctors are taught that symptoms are complications of the disease and not due to the drug being used to treat the disease.

After writing earlier about scaring people, I found out that Mexico City was hit by an earthquake. You scare people enough, they will accept anything the government gives them. First you scare them with a virus outbreak. Then you electromagnetize the earth beneath them to cause an earthquake to scare them even further. The religious people think that God is punishing them; however, it is only the power structure trying to accomplish something. The people in Mx City are now looking to their government for security. The gov't now have the people in the palm of their hands. This is a simple tactic that has been used throughout the ages by people in power to gain more power over their people.

A little history lesson:

During WWI, like all wars, the military vaccinated its soldiers. Since these vaccinations are harmful to the body by the very nature that they are foreign, many soldiers get sick and many die. After soldiers around the world were vaccinated and returned home after the war, they started to get sick. The governments then told the people that in order to avoid getting sick, they needed to get vaccinated. The result is that the people were vaccinated with the same chemical that caused many soldiers to die. This resulted in the deaths of millions people worldwide, which later became attributed to a flu virus.

When these people died, there was no known flu virus. How could there be? At that time we did not know that viruses were made of DNA or RNA. These discoveries came later; so it is impossible to have attributed those deaths to something that we did not know existed.

Probably a few decades into the future, we will be told that Gulf War Syndrome was due to a virus, rather than the vaccinations that the soldiers believed caused their illness. The power of the Internet is that you can re-write history. The power of the Associated Press is so you can tell one story to the public, even you have reporters from different agencies that have a different story. If you don't have one story to give the public, you can't lie to them. Hence, you form an Associated Press to release one story only. That is how the game is played.

I have a school text book (not medical) that was published in the 60s. In the chapter on the weather, it states that man learned how to control the weather in the 1940s. If this is true, why do we not know anything about that today? Was this text lying or did they just decide to keep this information secret going forward? The fact is that many countries are controlling the weather but they keep this a secret because the public would accuse their governments of causing natural disasters. If we can make it rain on any part of the planet, why would our gov't allow billions of dollars in damage due to wildfires in Ca and other states? I mention this in the context of the earthquake today.
The Ultimate Weapon of Mass Destruction: "Owning the Weather" for Military Use
TWMA - History
Weather Warfare: Beware the US military’s experiments with climatic warfare
Bio-electromagnetic Weapons: The ultimate weapon

My favorite quote is by Dr. Dan Duffy, former Cleveland Indians team doctor and chiropracter. "Most people are wrong about most things most of the time." He also quotes economist and author, Merrill Jenkins, who once wrote, "those who are unaware are unaware of being unaware."

Texas Student, wake up. The most powerful thing in this equation is the virus.

No one with any sense would remind the world of the 1918 Spanish Flu and think to make a profit in the long run.

Please get a little perspective.

I will give you both sides.

A) This is exactly how it would look if we were starting a bad season of flu.

B) This is also exactly how it could look at the beginning of the end of the human species.

A little caution is not unwarranted.

Sorry for the bewilderment, I guess I am too quick to believe that some dna and proteins are causing harm.

Originally Posted by Karplus

Texas Student, wake up. The most powerful thing in this equation is the virus.

No one with any sense would remind the world of the 1918 Spanish Flu and think to make a profit in the long run.

Please get a little perspective.

I will give you both sides.

A) This is exactly how it would look if we were starting a bad season of flu.

B) This is also exactly how it could look at the beginning of the end of the human species.

A little caution is not unwarranted.

Defense Secretary Rumsfeld sees growth in Gilead stake - Oct. 31, 2005
And this was from the previous bird poo scare.

locking.

already a thread here:

http://www.valuemd.com/universidad-a...swine-flu.html