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    What are my chances?

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    Age = 58, male. RN, Paramedic, BA Psych = 2.75 Nursing ASN = 3.5
    600 + hours of volunteer work, Board of director for health concern, 15,000 hours of clinical work. Applied and accepted @ 2 Caribbean schools accecpted one, currently student @ a Carib school. Flunked 3 month anatomy and embry.
    NO MCAT....yet,
    On semester break school is packed tight with students; (school leases facilities). Very high cost of living.

    UAG sounds good because it has been established for years.

    Please respond, I return in a week. If reasonable chance, will sign up with Kaplan and take the MCAT in August.
    Is there hospital affiliations? Most good schools are integrated with a hospitals; is UAG

    Mr. skeptic of Carib-type schools

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    Really confused. You are currently in Medical School? Then what... are you really worrying about?

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    Cost Factor aside Tuition

    Cost of living on the island is very high. Rental for a studio = $1800 USD.
    School has been chaotic with accepting so many students per semester. It is located on a very nice island.
    But, I come from an island so it is not a big deal.

    It is difficult to have a school operate out of one small 3 story building.

    What is cost of living in Mexico? Thanks for your reply.

    But, what are my chances at UAG?? Does UAG really facilitate one to pass the USMLE?
    Are you a student at UAG?

    Skeptic of Carib-type med school
    Last edited by xzystnc; 04-23-2006 at 03:28 PM. Reason: left out information

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    Lots of questions,

    Yes you can get accepted at UAG but they will really push you to take the MCAT. It is necessary for 5th Pathway, I think. They will not push you to get a really high MCAT score.

    I know people who spend $200/month rent but I would not suggest looking in this range. I am very happy with my place for $470 / month.

    Restaurants are not cheaper in Mexico. Good chinese $10 to 15. Good Italian $15 to $20. Sirloin Stockade Buffet, 10. And strangely tacos on a street corner $5 to $7 normally.

    There are some dire predictions about USMLE and UAG.
    I suggest that these are due to the fact that 1/2 or more of our students take the Revalida because they are from Puerta Rico.
    I also suggest that some of the students were not accepted into american schools for a reason.
    In addition the school does not recieve excellent information on USMLE scores because they are not an american school and do not require that you take USMLE at a specific time.

    Take my word for it. Classes are not a breeze here. Well, some are, the real tough courses are still real tough courses.

    Many people flunk finals but we are on a European type testing scale. Exams during course can be failed and you take an exam to replace it at the end of a semester. There is even a third try. In america they pass everyone with easier tests, here they don't care about how tough or representitive the tests are because you get a second try. I remember an organs exam that had questions on only the Uterus, Liver and Heart with no coverage of Lungs, Kidneys, Stomach, Intestines, Spleen, ... Still most people passed that one.
    "Every path has a puddle, but every slip is not a fall."
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    You have a good chance to be accepted @ UAG with the credentials you mentioned. About the USMLE...UAG school helps but the student also should study HARD to pass USMLE. UAG will give you a chance to become a physician, the rest is up to you. Just know that the system @ UAG is not perfect but if you want to learn take advantage of what UAG has to offer.
    Just my personal opinion. Best of luck xzystnc!

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    what school are u currently attending and where the hell does it cost 1800 a month for a studio?!

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    I believe that....

    Quote Originally Posted by SurgeonIN10years
    what school are u currently attending and where the hell does it cost 1800 a month for a studio?!
    he/she is at SMU in a wonderful island called Grand Cayman . I have had certain discussions at the SMU forum with students claiming that Grand Cayman is a 1st world country . The island is very well developed and nice but I have never heard of a tiny island in the caribbean being a 1st world country (considering what a 1st world country really represents). It is just funny how some students at SMU are so adamant about their belief that the island is a powerhouse in the world and so on. Some students at SMU get really offended if you claim otherwise; I was in shock to be honest with you of their responses and attitude towards a basic/honest non-malicious opinion and with a little bit of culture and common sense .....fact .

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    I think....

    Quote Originally Posted by xzystnc
    Age = 58, male. RN, Paramedic, BA Psych = 2.75 Nursing ASN = 3.5
    600 + hours of volunteer work, Board of director for health concern, 15,000 hours of clinical work. Applied and accepted @ 2 Caribbean schools accecpted one, currently student @ a Carib school. Flunked 3 month anatomy and embry.
    NO MCAT....yet,
    On semester break school is packed tight with students; (school leases facilities). Very high cost of living.

    UAG sounds good because it has been established for years.
    One of the most prestigious and oldest schools in Latin america
    Please respond, I return in a week. If reasonable chance, will sign up with Kaplan and take the MCAT in August.
    Is there hospital affiliations? Most good schools are integrated with a hospitals; is UAG
    UAG has it own hospitals
    Mr. skeptic of Carib-type schools
    you should apply and find out but before anything else really find out why you are not passing the classes at SMU. UAG is not an easier choice but I personally think is a better choice. I still dont understand why some students choose school with limitations. If I was going to apply to the caribbean, I would never choose anything else but Ross, SGU, AUC and SABA ( good choice eventhough SABA still doesnt require the MCAT but it is a little bit more selective in choosing its students in comparison to the other "big 3" because of the space limitations; they only accept about 60-100 students per semester) to attend medical school. I dont know about the education in SMU since I have never been there or plan to attend but the fact that they were denied by california ( I am from california) really makes me wonder about the quality of the education and facilities at SMU. I am not the one saying this. The report given by california reviewing board is very self-explanatory and convincing in which they say that SMU is sub-standard in many aspects. Good luck

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    Statistical Probabilities of Attending UAG

    Okay, Xzystnc.

    • You are not too old for UAG. one student that now teaches at UAG was 50 or over when he started. We also have a few that are around 50 and it was not an issue. If Tuna Love (tunnaluvluv) was on here, he would just flat out say no one gets rejected. I can not agree with or disprove him.
    • Other stats: you are okay in my opinion. In some ways better prepared because you have a realistic background of relevant work and experience.
    • Flunking Anatomy and Embryology... you may do the same here, but for a different reason (see my 500 reasons to hate Dr. M). However, you will be given more opportunities to that the final test and pass the class.
    • Rent is cheaper here. I pay about the highest for an apt at $670 for a 3 bedroom that I have all to myself. Karplus on here pays about $470 and lives in a 2 bedroom/one bathroom cave burrowed under the school. If you can tolerate roommates, the cost goes down more.
    • You will need the MCAT, but they may let you start provisionally until you can take it. There are different opinions, but most agree it is more a formality to make the school look more reputable, but nevertheless a requirement.
    Overall, I think you can learn more here - both in and out of class.

    You did not mention your Spanish-speaking abilities. I highly (very highly) recommend that you know at least the basics. You will need it for clinic classes, and it helps for everyday tasks here. Personally, I would worry more about that than the MCAT.

    You have a calculated probability of acceptance of 98.7%


    Quote Originally Posted by xzystnc
    Age = 58, male. RN, Paramedic, BA Psych = 2.75 Nursing ASN = 3.5
    600 + hours of volunteer work, Board of director for health concern, 15,000 hours of clinical work. Applied and accepted @ 2 Caribbean schools accecpted one, currently student @ a Carib school. Flunked 3 month anatomy and embry.
    NO MCAT....yet,
    On semester break school is packed tight with students; (school leases facilities). Very high cost of living.

    UAG sounds good because it has been established for years.

    Please respond, I return in a week. If reasonable chance, will sign up with Kaplan and take the MCAT in August.
    Is there hospital affiliations? Most good schools are integrated with a hospitals; is UAG

    Mr. skeptic of Carib-type schools
    "You do not truly understand something unless you can explain it to your grandmother." Albert Einstein

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    I would say.....

    Quote Originally Posted by acgtacgtacgt
    Okay, Xzystnc.

    You have a calculated probability of acceptance of 98.7%
    that you are wrong . Based on my calculation Xzystnc will have a 99.989% possibility of acceptance based on interview + a very good explanation why failed out of PA but the chances of getting an MD degree will greatly reduced if mistakes are not corrected . the "indio amazonico" has spoken.....
    Last edited by cabrillo; 04-23-2006 at 11:30 PM.

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