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    Any Unibe grads working in California?

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    i know what ALL of YOU are THINKING... Unibe grads can't...

    but there are a lot of rumors, for example if you work for the military or the government for a certain amount of years you can somehow get a license.

    at the least by posting this i hope to achieve nothing more then to see others who r familiar with these rumors.

    another rumor; if you pass your boards, work in another state for x amount of years and then apply for california license going thru a litigation process then the ca board considers the case individually.


    i ve asked the medical board of california and they have said No that there are no such loopholes. IS the ca med board the only one with the last word?

    i would love to get a Yes!.

    Honestly, i d be surprised, not very surprised but surprised to get a YES.
    who knows when unibe will apply for a license, and if they do, will it be retroactive?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zohaib
    i know what ALL of YOU are THINKING... Unibe grads can't...

    but there are a lot of rumors, for example if you work for the military or the government for a certain amount of years you can somehow get a license.
    I don't know anything about UNIBE's status, but I do know the following regarding California licensure:

    You cannot get a California license if you graduate from an unapproved school/program.

    The VA loophole is a myth. Although, technically correct, that for VA work strictly on VA property one only needs any state license (as well as other qualifications), in reality, this is simply not feasible. For instance, you would need to do ALL of your work within the VA facility. The moment you cross the facility gate, you'd be practicing medicine without a license. Also, you couldn't call yourself "doctor" on the outside, etc..

    at the least by posting this i hope to achieve nothing more then to see others who r familiar with these rumors.

    another rumor; if you pass your boards, work in another state for x amount of years and then apply for california license going thru a litigation process then the ca board considers the case individually.
    Oh, if you have time and money, you can always sue. This is the US, after all. However, the California state legislature has given the medical board statutory authority and they've never lost. So, good luck, given that the outcome is going to be that you funded your lawyer's next dream car and vacations for years to come.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zohaib
    i ve asked the medical board of california and they have said No that there are no such loopholes. IS the ca med board the only one with the last word?

    i would love to get a Yes!.

    Honestly, i d be surprised, not very surprised but surprised to get a YES.
    who knows when unibe will apply for a license, and if they do, will it be retroactive?
    The medical board is the one with the last word. Regarding retroactive approval, I recommend that you read this proposed change of regulation.
    Last edited by Miklos; 01-19-2006 at 04:00 PM.

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    California medical license for UTESA Dominican Republic dissaproved school grad 1986

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    What does this proposed regulation mean / I am a graduate of UTESA 2/86 dissaproved 7/85 so can I be evaluated on a case by case basis for medical course work done before 7/85? This regulation is difficult to interpret. Anyone have any suggestions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greg
    Zohaib,


    What does this proposed regulation mean / I am a graduate of UTESA 2/86 dissaproved 7/85 so can I be evaluated on a case by case basis for medical course work done before 7/85? This regulation is difficult to interpret. Anyone have any suggestions.
    The way I read it, you are out of luck.

    As UTESA was disapproved this means that retroactive approval on a case by case basis following eventual approval of the school IS NOT POSSIBLE.

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    Utesa and license in calif

    Zohiab,


    That's interesting as a Utesa classmate of mine is licensed in California licensed in 1995. So tell me how this happened. Apparently in 1995 one could be licensed leading to what I think is a double standard.

    Tell me how someone who is a graduate of Utesa can be licensed in 1995 following a disapproval in 1985.

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    Miklos is offline Elite Member 511 points
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    Quote Originally Posted by greg
    Zohiab,


    That's interesting as a Utesa classmate of mine is licensed in California licensed in 1995. So tell me how this happened. Apparently in 1995 one could be licensed leading to what I think is a double standard.

    Tell me how someone who is a graduate of Utesa can be licensed in 1995 following a disapproval in 1985.
    I'm not Zohaib.

    However, until I can independently verify (by a look-up on the board's website) I'm really skeptical. I will admit to knowing nothing about the history of UTESA and California licensure. However, as the board lists it as follows:


    UTESA University, Santo Domingo
    07-13-85
    disapproval reaffirmed 02-07-97

    I'd like to see some proof.

    Tell you what, why don't you pm me the name of this person and if I find them on the licensure database, I'll post it here. Otherwise, your claim is meaningless.

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    California is not an option

    Mr. "Zohaib:" Since December 2002, I've exchanged 12 e-mails with you affirming that you will not be eligible to train in or become licensed in California if you enroll in UNIBE's medical school, which is an unrecognized school. I urged you to enroll in a California-recognized medical school and stop searching for non-existent loopholes. You disregarded my advice and enrolled in UNIBE. Consequently, you're not eligible to train in or become licensed in California because of your own poor judgement and UNIBE's continued defiance in enrolling Californians and California-interested persons while remaining an unrecognized school. I'd appreciate it if you would stop agitating other ineligible people with rumors of loopholes. If anyone wants to train in or become licensed in California, it's a simple matter to enroll in California-recognized medical schools. There are about 1,000 California-recognized schools around the world.
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    That was pretty straight.

    Couldn't get any colder and real than that. But that is how reality works.

    Cheers all

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    Quote Originally Posted by PatPark
    Mr. "Zohaib:" Since December 2002, I've exchanged 12 e-mails with you affirming that you will not be eligible to train in or become licensed in California if you enroll in UNIBE's medical school, which is an unrecognized school. I urged you to enroll in a California-recognized medical school and stop searching for non-existent loopholes. You disregarded my advice and enrolled in UNIBE. Consequently, you're not eligible to train in or become licensed in California because of your own poor judgement and UNIBE's continued defiance in enrolling Californians and California-interested persons while remaining an unrecognized school. I'd appreciate it if you would stop agitating other ineligible people with rumors of loopholes. If anyone wants to train in or become licensed in California, it's a simple matter to enroll in California-recognized medical schools. There are about 1,000 California-recognized schools around the world.

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    Ms Pat; Could you tell us what you look for when you approve med sch

    Quote Originally Posted by PatPark
    Mr. "Zohaib:" Since December 2002, I've exchanged 12 e-mails with you affirming that you will not be eligible to train in or become licensed in California if you enroll in UNIBE's medical school, which is an unrecognized school. I urged you to enroll in a California-recognized medical school and stop searching for non-existent loopholes. You disregarded my advice and enrolled in UNIBE. Consequently, you're not eligible to train in or become licensed in California because of your own poor judgement and UNIBE's continued defiance in enrolling Californians and California-interested persons while remaining an unrecognized school. I'd appreciate it if you would stop agitating other ineligible people with rumors of loopholes. If anyone wants to train in or become licensed in California, it's a simple matter to enroll in California-recognized medical schools. There are about 1,000 California-recognized schools around the world.
    Thank u

    and

    How about DO schools graduates. Can they able to get licence?

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    osteopaths

    DOs have their own california board that oversees them:

    http://www.ombc.ca.gov/
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