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    UNIBE Rotations Abroad

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    I'm wondering: What is the general experience with trying to do clinical rotations in the states? Who gets to go on these rotations? Does the average joe have a chance of going abroad?

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    UNIBE likes to sell the idea that you can do one of your last 2 years of rotations abroad. That is not true.

    1. You need to have a 3.0 GPA to rotate abroad or the school will not allow you, even if you have a 240 on your STEP 1. This is absolutely retarded because the students that need to boost their CV the most are those that do NOT have a 3.0, and as an American medical student you have to frequently sacrifice your GPA to study for the USMLE.

    2. The positions open for doing abroad are not rotations, they are "observerships", which are completely useless and do not help your CV whatsoever. You do have the option, in some hospitals, to pay an extra several thousand dollars and upgrade your observership to a rotation.

    3. One-year minimum of US clinical rotations is what alot of residency programs require, UNIBE only allows you to do 34 weeks abroad maximum, automatically disqualifying you for alot of residencies. They don't care because all they want is US Student Financial Aid money to keep pouring in and they only look at USMLE pass rates. Mind you they sold me the idea that I would do my last year abroad if I wanted to. In reality it is less than 34 weeks because there are not that many weeks in which your pensum will have dates that match available observerships/rotations abroad.

    4. Prepare to shell out $8,000 in addition to the $9,000 tuition for an 8 week observership.

    5. The average joe can do an observership abroad.

    6. Don't do an observership abroad, unless you are doing it in your home city. It will make it cheaper and worthwhile to leave that dreaded island for at least a month or two, with no significant effect on your CV whatsoever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MedStudentMD View Post
    UNIBE likes to sell the idea that you can do one of your last 2 years of rotations abroad. That is not true.

    1. You need to have a 3.0 GPA to rotate abroad or the school will not allow you, even if you have a 240 on your STEP 1. This is absolutely retarded because the students that need to boost their CV the most are those that do NOT have a 3.0, and as an American medical student you have to frequently sacrifice your GPA to study for the USMLE.

    2. The positions open for doing abroad are not rotations, they are "observerships", which are completely useless and do not help your CV whatsoever. You do have the option, in some hospitals, to pay an extra several thousand dollars and upgrade your observership to a rotation.

    3. One-year minimum of US clinical rotations is what alot of residency programs require, UNIBE only allows you to do 34 weeks abroad maximum, automatically disqualifying you for alot of residencies. They don't care because all they want is US Student Financial Aid money to keep pouring in and they only look at USMLE pass rates. Mind you they sold me the idea that I would do my last year abroad if I wanted to. In reality it is less than 34 weeks because there are not that many weeks in which your pensum will have dates that match available observerships/rotations abroad.

    4. Prepare to shell out $8,000 in addition to the $9,000 tuition for an 8 week observership.

    5. The average joe can do an observership abroad.

    6. Don't do an observership abroad, unless you are doing it in your home city. It will make it cheaper and worthwhile to leave that dreaded island for at least a month or two, with no significant effect on your CV whatsoever.
    This is grossly inaccurate. Yes, a GPA of 3.0 is needed to do a rotation abroad. However, theres no reason why your GPA would be less than a 3.0. The rotations are not obeserverships and similarly you dont have to shell out more money for a rotation. There are some sites that have a fee but this doesnt apply to all sites. Infact, if you rotate abroad for the entire semester you will have a discounted tuition. Hope this clears it up some.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jecave View Post
    This is grossly inaccurate. Yes, a GPA of 3.0 is needed to do a rotation abroad.
    That's what I said.

    Quote Originally Posted by jecave View Post
    However, theres no reason why your GPA would be less than a 3.0.
    Ok, nobody has less than a 3.0 at UNIBE ... next

    Quote Originally Posted by jecave View Post
    The rotations are not obeserverships and similarly you dont have to shell out more money for a rotation. There are some sites that have a fee but this doesnt apply to all sites.
    Wait, they are rotations not observerships, BUT some sites have a fee to bump your observership to a rotation, and that fee does not include shelling out more money? For all interested at attending UNIBE this is exactly what your classmates will be like.

    Quote Originally Posted by jecave View Post
    Infact, if you rotate abroad for the entire semester you will have a discounted tuition. Hope this clears it up some.
    By discounted tuition, do you mean not having to pay parking fees and health coverage for the semester .... ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MedStudentMD View Post
    That's what I said.



    Ok, nobody has less than a 3.0 at UNIBE ... next



    Wait, they are rotations not observerships, BUT some sites have a fee to bump your observership to a rotation, and that fee does not include shelling out more money? For all interested at attending UNIBE this is exactly what your classmates will be like.



    By discounted tuition, do you mean not having to pay parking fees and health coverage for the semester .... ?

    Your right, you did mention a 3.0 was necessary. However, you made it seem like it was impossible to have 3.0 and do good on your steps. I didn't say the fee at some sites where "to bump observerships to rotations." All rotations abroad are hands on rotations and this is the reason you must purchase a malpractice insurance. If you don't want to pay a fee then go to site that doesnt charge one. When i said discounted tuition, I meant a reduction of 50%. To the OP, don't get me wrong, UNIBE is not perfect. I have had my share of upsets but it is not as bad as the above poster makes it out to be. I am in my final year in the program and am currently rotating abroad. Of course there are some students who don't make it out with an MD. Some of these students take their student loans and split several semesters to travel to Honduras and to Cuba. For the comment "this is exactly what your classmates will be like"...my GPA is above 3.0 and i got 240+ on a step so that might not be a bad thing after all. Bottom line, learn to differentiate between sound advice and advice that comes from a bitter person.
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