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    UNIBE Medical program

    Hello,

    I came on here because there is not enough current information available about what UNIBE in Santo Domingo is really like. I am no longer a student in UNIBE and leaving the school was by far the best decision I ever made. I am taking the time to write this post, because I want to prevent prospective students from making a decision to enroll at UNIBE, without have a real perspective on what it is like.

    First of all, I would like to say to anyone that is researching this school and considering applying, please note that any positive information you find is from UNIBE students that graduated many years ago, or faculty. The school has undergone many changes and the new program that began in 2010 is a nightmare. They changed the curriculum and have made it near impossible for students to take their boards and become physicians.

    UNIBE is a sinking ship. The administration is composed of individuals that are not qualified to run a lemonade stand, yet, they are entrusted with using US Federal Loans to operate and manage a "medical school". The medical program is completely unorganized and comprised of a culture that assumes that all the students are stupid and incapable. From the dean down to the faculty, the culture is abusive and counterproductive to students.

    Everything involved with UNIBE is a fight. Whether it is registering for classes, seeking information about changes, etc., the school makes EVERYTHING a nightmare. They will not give you information and they make critical changes to their curriculum mid semester with no regard for students.

    I could spend hours going on about how twisted and disgusting this institution is, but I will just cut to the chase about why UNIBE is not a feasible option for studying medicine.

    They create schedules that keep the students in class for hours on end. Although this may seem normal, when you are trying to study for your boards, which is all that matters, being in class with a completely incompetent professor that does not show up on time from 9am-7pm every day, is not ideal for studying. Numerous students have tried to explain this to the administration, but their response is "you are just lazy and not managing your time". Mind you, the geniuses designing this schedule, are not physicians, nor do they have any clue about what really studying medicine and passing the USMLE is about. Even the good students that kill themselves studying, are struggling to prepare for exams, because they are forced into attending classes that are pointless at best, and following insane schedules.

    UNIBE is a trap and the school is aware of it. Once you take the federal loans to study there, you are at their mercy and they know it!! The school has raised the tuition every semester. Incoming students now pay $9,000. First of all, how can the school justify this?!! They are literally the only Caribbean school that does not have US clinicals. They say they do, but this is FAR from the truth. They offer a few positions in the states to top students, which is mind boggling. Why? Well, the school makes the exams which have nothing to do with the course. So, you can only rotate in the states with a high GPA, but you cannot get a high GPA because the courses are designed for failure. So, for example, Jose in the Spanish section lives at home, goes to class, has all the information handed to him, does not take his USMLE step 1, and has a 3.7GPA. On the other hand, Doug is in the "english section", came from another country to study, takes exams that are translated from Spanish to English using google, passes USMLE step 1, and has a 3.0 GPA. Guess who is getting the rotation? Jose, who knows absolutely nothing about medicine but has a high GPA.

    There are numerous other caribbean schools that are cheaper, offer US clinicals, and do not have an abusive culture that treats all their students like trash. Why people still go to UNIBE, I do not know.

    As of right now, there have been rumors from UNIBE students that many of them are unable to take their USMLE. . Per ECFMG.org "Additionally, for the purpose of ECFMG Certification, credits earned on or after January 1, 2008 that are transferred to the medical school that awarded or will award your medical degree must meet all of the following criteria:
    • Credits must be transferred from one IMED-listed medical school to another IMED-listed medical school.*
    • Credits must be for courses taken at one medical school within seven years of the date of graduation at the medical school that accepts the transferred courses.
    • Credits must be for courses that were passed at the medical school at which the course was taken.



    What is the significance of this you are wondering? Well, UNIBE has been accepting students and transferring their credits from both high school and college. High school and colleges are not IMED listed schools. So, the majority of students transferred credits from after 2008. Now, many students have applied to take their boards only to discover that their transfer credits are not accepted by the ECFMG, aka their degree is useless because they cannot take their boards. How does a medical school on US Federal Loans allow students to transfer credits that will not be validated? All of the students in this situation are now waiting to see how this will be handled and their future is in the hands of these incompetent imbeciles. What this means, is that students who completed their basic sciences and some clinical semesters, may have to go back and repeat pre-med courses. The question is, did UNIBE admit students and transfer their credits knowing they would not be validated for financial gain? I cannot say for sure, but I would like someone to show me some compelling evidence against this.

    The bottom line here people, is that UNIBE is not an option for studying medicine. They will put road blocks in your way that make this hard career near impossible. If you think that I am lying and are considering this school, please, I beg you to fly there and speak to current students. They are trapped and miserable. Numerous students (those with brains), are transferring out. DO NOT GO TO UNIBE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MedStudentMD View Post
    Yeah tell that to the 6 students denied entry to take Step 1. Your statement is no different than me saying, "I think your right Susie, the moon is square". You are not trying to predict something here or make an artistic interpretation, the problem exists. Unless I'm wrong and you understand the ECFMG rules better than the ECFMG itself that decided against these students. Call and ask specifically about UNIBE, then come back and post.
    You keep posting but provide no evidence. Who are these 6 students? Why don't you invite them to this forum?

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    First of all, you cannot use names in the forum genius. Secondly, if you do not believe us, then go to the school of medicine and ask them. We can't invite them to the forum because just like every other unibe student, they are spineless and brainwashed. The whole reason this school has become so corrupt is because the students do not make a stand. The only reason it is only 6 students so far, is because the rest of the student population has not tried to register for the step because they aren't close to being ready. Go talk to the school administration and I guarantee you, you will see what's going on. I'm only on here to prevent future students from making same mistake I did and hopefully saving them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by josemrodz View Post
    You keep posting but provide no evidence. Who are these 6 students? Why don't you invite them to this forum?
    Not violating the privacy of 6 classmates for your amusement, so you can stalk them on Facebook and interrogate them. In fact, I don't have to give you evidence of anything because you are not going to fix the problem. Just enroll and find out, you'll have your answer $9000 later.

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    Screw the both of you then. You come in here out of nowhere making all these outrageous claims and refusing to back them up. Methinks you are nothing but trolls who got your ***** kicked out of the university because you couldnt hack it. Good day to you and this bullpooh pooh thread!!!

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    So, in the spirit of abused, dissappointed, and fed-up UNIBE students: may I please get a PM with transfering ideas? I would ask for a more public scene, but I am pretty sure that the UNIBE hounds stalk these grounds.

    Ps. Particularities aside, this thread is spot-on. Prospective UNIBE students heed call. Do not be hard-headed on this matter. Find a different school, or at the very least, do not say you had no warning.
    Last edited by draquish; 07-14-2014 at 01:38 PM.

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    I am currently enrolled at UNIBE and have taken/on the verge of taking my Step 1 exam (to be even more anonymous). Fortunately, ECFMG accepted my application without a hassle and I don't have to deal with the current fiasco that is happening right now to some of my colleagues. Everything (EVERYTHING) that the author of this thread (UndercoverDoc) wrote about Unibe couldn't be more accurate (especially about the faculty treating its students like idiots/children). Also, our negative comments are not secondary to failing courses or being bitter about living in a 3rd world country that we "can't handle". Our frustration is directly related to UNIBE. I would be dimwitted to find or hear another student say ANYTHING good about Unibe. From sneaky mid-semester rule changes/tuition increases, to outlandish schedules that do absolutely NO JUSTICE for anyone trying to study for their board exams (btw they make lectures/class "mandatory", biggest joke of all). If you are thinking of going to Unibe, think elsewhere. The point of this post is to warn anyone thinking of coming to Unibe. Unless it's your last resort, I honestly wouldn't recommend it to anyone... But, at the end of the day, they still provide a path to obtain your MD while providing Federal Loans, but the disorganization and lack of a competent faculty is an inevitable time bomb for self-implosion. I feel shameful posting this, as I seem like a bitter victim to Unibe's vice grip, but feel it is the best thing to do for those thinking of enrolling at UNIBE. THERE IS A BETTER OPTION SOMEWHERE ELSE!
    Last edited by DrLink; 07-16-2014 at 01:19 AM.

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    To comment on the credit expiring thing:

    I tried seeking information from the university and got the run around. AKA the usual. The person to speak to wasn't there, come back later. Came back later, they're in a meeting. Made an appointment. Came for my appointment and the secretary was given information to give to me. Basically, yes, some students can't take the test because their credits expired but the university claims it's because they further delayed their examination by splitting semesters, taking semesters off, failing classes, or any combination of the three. They said the appeals process is the students responsibility, but the school does provide the necessary transcripts and documents needed (don't know if this includes the letter). They also claim that there are others who have expired credits that followed curriculum and had no issue. So, ugh, I don't know *** to do with that info. Thanks UNIBE.

    Like DrLink said, there are better options elsewhere. I strongly suggest you look at them. Even on this island, there's better programs, although most of them are only in Spanish and don't accept aid (but will cost less than half of what UNIBE costs anyway). You'll really get your moneys worth as far as the education, as the spanish programs are pretty decent, and then you'll just have to self-study for the steps (basically what UNIBE students end up doing anyway).

    And I'm not bitter about living in a 3rd world country at all. I get 43 pesos for my dollar. My apartment is in a brand new tower - much better than anything I would get in the states for this kind of money. I'm like a freaking King around here, but in all honesty, F this school and the people running it. Scam artists. All of them.

    Edit: word
    Last edited by UnibeTruth; 07-22-2014 at 09:38 PM.

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    Jose
    You are a fool. You are being a hypocrite. Demanding evidence, but yet crucifying these individuals with no evidence yourself. Maybe you are an unibe employee searching for people to punish. Makes more sense since you keep demanding names.
    Everything these people say is true. Every shred of information they posted is 100% true. In fact, they actually make it seem better than it is.
    I not only know all the people who have been denied for step 1 by ecfmg, but I a former student of unibe. I found a way out and don't regret it for a econd. The only thing keeping this place afloat is federal loans and prizes dreams and lies. They have serious connections in Dominican and us government. They will be caught eventually for their fraud. It has to be fraudulent to demand people take off and split semesters, make them keep paying exorbitant tuition at the same time to collect loans, and raise tuition. All of this is being done without complete USA rotations. This school only offers clinicals in USA to top students and those who can afford the extra fees of living and insurance on top of the tuition. Every other caribe an school includes that in their rotations.
    If you don't believe us, go down to unibe without notifying the administration. Sit in the plaza let's and listen for English, ask these students the truth. If you go to unibe they will send you scared representatives that they watch as you speak to them.
    We have no gains from telling you people the truth. People come to these boards looking for information. It's up to you whether you heed the warnings. Better yet, go to unibe and come back here in 3 years. I'll be waiting for an update.

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    P.s: the reason that people are not coming forward on their own is because they are terrified of unibe repercussions. Their future is in the hands of unibe. Unibe is notoriously known for making threats and siding against the student, for whatever reason. People are scared to stand up for basic privileges and rights. Unibe students have Stockholm syndrome.
    An example is this: there is a YouTube video going viral of the roof caving in on an unibe classroom right after the 20% tuition increase. A bathroom pipe exploded and flooded a classroom with excrement and disgusting water, while students were inside and then trapped. You can find this video yourself. Well, instead of owning up to this blunder and fixing it, unibe attacked the students and said anyone spreading this video would be fined $100,000 pesos. That's $2000 roughly. Mind you, this video went to every Dominican school, media, and was broadcasted on the news. Way to punish the students for no reason.

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    Pre-med transferred credits

    Quote Originally Posted by MedStudentMD View Post
    Yeah tell that to the 6 students denied entry to take Step 1. Your statement is no different than me saying, "I think your right Susie, the moon is square". You are not trying to predict something here or make an artistic interpretation, the problem exists. Unless I'm wrong and you understand the ECFMG rules better than the ECFMG itself that decided against these students. Call and ask specifically about UNIBE, then come back and post.

    Well, apparently she's right. I just called ECFMG offices and ask about this issue and a lovely lady clarified some of our doubts. Regarding the issue of expired credits... I asked her if she could email me the response of what needs to be done. Here it is, for the benefit of everyone with this problem:

    "August 22, 2014

    Dear Doctor,

    I am writing in response to a request during a customer service call

    In addition to meeting the current eligibility requirements, students and graduates who transferred credits from undergraduate institutions to their current IMED-listed medical school must provide ECFMG with a letter from the medical school that awarded or will award their medical degree, confirming that the credits earned at the undergraduate institution were transferred to the pre-medical portion of the curriculum only. This letter must be submitted in conjunction with the application for a USMLE examination and must accompany the Certification of Identification Form (Form 186). Applications received without this letter will be rejected.

    I hope this information is helpful to you.

    Sincerely,
    Info @ ecfmg . org
    DMA"


    I think some of you already posted this... but I just wanted to clarify that even ECFMG says that with just a letter from UNIBE saying it was transferred to the pre-med portion you'll be okay. Now, I think there's got to be something else going on with those students, maybe some basic science transferred credits? (And I know all of you know this, but still I want to clarify that basic sciences courses are med school credits already, they're not pre-med... for those who didn't know this, but I'm pretty sure all of you know this). Or they just forgot to apply with the letter? Whatever it is, I hope they figure it out.
    Last edited by cdtrivkar; 08-22-2014 at 09:54 AM.

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