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    UNIBE's odd requirements

    Hi,

    Let me start off by saying I know Americans who graduated from UNIBE. One is doing extremely well as a successful anesthesiologist in NY. I know that this school produces great students and haven't heard any complaints. I noticed some weird things about the documents though. And I talked to the International Admission Department to get clarification on the following topics:

    -What happens to my birth certificate after they receive it? Will it be sent back?
    -There was no mention of how my LORs must be sent or any such criteria about how old they are. I graduated in 2009. So all of my recommendation letters from undergraduate courses will be from that year or earlier.

    So apparently;

    All ORIGINAL documents-- like the birth certificate (which must first be legalized) will not be returned to the student as they become university property. That sounds incredibly sketchy. I've never heard that being done in an American entity, let alone a university.

    3 Letters of Recommendation are required to be printed on official letterhead and are valid for SIX MONTHS from the date of issue. This is an incredibly small window for people who have not just graduated. This wouldn't be an issue if I were still in school though. On top of all that, shouldn't it be sufficient that my letters are all coming together in a packet approved by my health professions office? Also, no other admissions office has such tight regulations for LoRs.(Even AMCAS!) This is a bit ridiculous.

    The letters of recommendation would be somewhat understandable but the birth certificate requirement is absolutely ludicrous. After the FBI background check, legalized documents, and all the other ** items you have to include for ADMISSION(not post acceptance), it's really questionable.

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    OK so I noticed yours and a couple of other user's very recent posts casting a negative shadow on UNIBE. Are you currently in their international track? What's your typical schedule like?

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    Yeah, currently in the international track. Schedule will vary depending on semester. Some are a little easier to handle than others, but you really should be trying to maximize your study time. System blocks are insane. It's really random actually. Some weeks you'll feel like you're non stop, then you find yourself with a certain day off for some reason for a couple of weeks. In med, you're usually not scheduled saturday class unless something weird comes up, but don't be surprised if you have to make up classes where the professor couldn't show up or something odd happened on saturdays. Pre-med I always had a saturday class. Overall, I would say it's really not THAT crazy. Yeah, a bit tough, but I feel like people in the US are probably going a lot crazier than I am. Just really have to be self-motivated to stay on top of things and put your time into studying for yourself. Very easy to get distracted or fall a bit behind.

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    Thanks! And I understand you tried or are trying to transfer out of UNIBE? I imagine you want to do your residency in the states.

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    Yeah, that's the next part for me, so I can't give much advice. Basically what I have right now is:

    1. Get a ridiculously high Step 1 score.
    2. Beg the very few US schools that accept foreign medical school transfers. I think there's only a handful that do and you're competing for probably less than 30 seats combined from all those schools against not only Caribbean schools, but everywhere else in the world.

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    I suppose if you get a ridiculously high Step 1 score then nothing else matters. Not where you do clinical rotations, whether you finish your MD in the US, etc. All you're really fighting for (besides the MD) is a residency match for your specialty of choice. From what I understand the USMLE score is like the SAT score and the GPA of the residency world all rolled into one.

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    Like I said, I don't know too much about it, but my understanding is that you're basically right. All that matters is how well you do on your step exams. GPA is kind of hit or miss because a lot of schools (even in the US) are pass or fail, so it doesn't play too much of a role. I'm sure you get better looks if you're a US student, or if you got that great rotation at the Mayo Clinic or something, but yeah, it's pretty much boils down to step scores.
    Last edited by UnibeTruth; 07-22-2014 at 09:39 PM.

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    Unibe truth have you taken your step 1? I transferred out of UNIBE last year and within 6 months of transferring I took step 1 and scored pretty damn high on it. Interesting how when I was in UNIBE, I was stuck playing their stupid games and could get nothing done. My whole point, is how the hell can you get a good step 1 score when you are stuck dealing with UNIBEs insane schedules? Tell me, do you know 3 people that have managed to do this without taking off or splitting and our not graduates of pre-2010 pen sum? I know every person in the international track that has taken their boards and ALL of them had to take off and split semesters. You're confusing your positivity with reality.

    UNIBE students walk around in white coats taking selfless and posting pictures online, meanwhile discussing how they will be plastic surgeons. The school is garbage and the kids are morons aside from a SELECT few. That place breeds stupidity. Do not get caught up and actually start believing their lies that the schedule is "not that bad". Go online and search of talk to any other med student from another school. I have done the research and could not find ONE that spends as much time in "class" as unibe students

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    Out of curiosity where did you transfer to? Were all your credits accepted? Congrats on you score!

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    Hmm, I think I've been pretty clear this whole time in stating that I haven't personally taken the step exam yet, nor do I personally know anyone that has - so I cannot really comment on that.

    Do I need to clarify that?

    I, UnibeTruth, have not taken the step exam. Understanding that I lack this critical piece of experience, I have chosen to refrain from making statements about the exam or the process. In the case that someone should ask me directly for information, I will not hold back from providing them information that I have received from colleagues and other 3rd party sources, in an attempt to provide some assistance and perhaps a place to begin furthering their research on that specific topic, as long as I make it clear to them and everyone reading these posts, that this is not information known to be factual to me, but only hearsay and should be used at their discretion.

    Now, instead of being this high-and-mighty all knowing condescending a hole, why don't you actually provide some information - aside from the entertaining UNIBE-bashing circlejerk - that could actually help / benefit people who visit the forum. You say you left a year ago? Cool, congrats on that. Seriously. You did well on the steps? That's awesome. So instead of trying to talk down to people on this forum, why not provide some information on how people can follow your example, leave this sad excuse of a program, and find success elsewhere?

    If you want to PM us, for anonymity, feel free, but seeing as you are no longer a student and haven't been in a while, it should be okay for you to share the information about the other options/universities. You know, there's a lot of people at the UNIBE seeking a way out and they could benefit from this information.

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    Do not come. Avoid the school while you still can.

    Don't say you weren't warned.

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