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    future A nesthesiologist???

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    hey guys ..this Sept i will be entering my senior year in highschool ...i would like to ask you guys what can i do now to help me better my chances of me getting accepted into UNIBE and what things should i be doing now thats going to work for me in the future once im in UNIBE... i know i have the will and smarts to get through medical school just thinking of all my family members who laugh at me when i say i would like to become a doctor just because i like the club scene not knowing that i can and will sacifice that if it'll interfere with my school ..but anyways getting a little off topic ..id appreciate advise of all sorts from my big brothers and sisters @ value MD

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    set your sights higher than UNIBE or any foreign school for that matter. UNIBE and the carib schools are a last resort if you cant get in a US med school. specially by the time you get to applying..there are plenty of US schools opening and no increase in residency slots so it will be even more competitive for foreign grads.

    here is the secret: take a major that is so easy you are guaranteed to have a 4.0 gpa then just take the pre med pre reqs and make sure you ace them. take time to study for the mcat. get a 3.6 gpa in undergrad, get at least that in your science pre med reqs and a 28 or more on the mcat and you can forget you ever heard of UNIBE or any other foreign school

    so set your sights higher..these foreign schools are last...last resort
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    go for it!

    Dr.Zabala, from my point of view I will recommend you to start in UNIBE medical program only if you are completely sure that you want to become a doctor, if you are comitted, focused, and will give 110% percent of hard work then start UNIBE as soon as you graduate high school, dont waste a minute thinking about it, the only thing you have to think about is giving your best performance and your greatest effort! I'm gonna start my 6th semester in september and I have a well understanding of how things work here in UNIBE. I totally agree with Dr.Holbrook in that you dont have to be Albert Einstein to do well in med school, however you do need to sacrifice many things, and be a very dedicated and organized person! If medicine is your passion jump on this boat and dont waste a minute thinking about Harvard med.

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    bad advice now more than ever. i woudl never urge a high school student to go to the caribbean for med school because you automatically close doors you dont need to! you will automatically be barred from doing rotations in med school in some hospitals, some states..you will aurtomatically be turned down for residency at some programs jusy by where you went to school regardless of your scores and you may be automatically be barred from practice in some places

    listen, there are about 30 med schools in the U.S. opening up right now plus med schools all over are increasing class sizes...my US med school alone is increasing to more than double by increasing class size here and opening up a second campus an hour away. what does this mean? this means with decreasing budgets the number of residency spots is likely to remain steady meaning all of us foreign grads already matching much less than US students will be at even more competition. look up the nrmp rates..while the big carib schools and UAG may match 80-90+% of students the over all is about 50% for foreign grads

    and i see match rates for foreign grads decline because as a member of a med school adm and residency committe we will take a US grad with lower scores over a foreign grad..fair or not doesn't matter

    also specialties you maybe interested like plastics, ortho, derm, opthto, ent are basically out of bounds for a foreign grad in most cases

    again worse advice ever is to finish high school and go straight to med school in the caribbean. heck if thats your route there are US schools that will admit you to a bachelors with condictional acceptance to med shool if your grades in HS are great.

    also yet another reason why not to do pre med in the caribbean is that credits are non transferable meaning once ytou start there you are stuck and if you go somewhere else semi reputable then you start over. also some licensing bodies will not accept pre med credits from a non degree granting institution meaning that is the med school is not credentialed to giove undergrad bachelors degrees you arer out of luck regardless of the doctorate degrees they offer

    so there is no reason whatsover to cut yourself short by attending one of thse programs..UNIBE will be just as glad to admit you with a 4 year degree as out of high school..provided you can pay of course just like all the rest of our for profit schools in the carib
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    UACMD, I totally agree with you in many things you said, however there are many other factors to consider. If someone is mature and knows what they want in life that person will be succesful regardless of all the obstacles that they may encounter on the road. If i was DRZABALA I would go straight to med school and not wait 4 years and see if you're admitted to a US med school, many things can happen in 4 years, your whole life can change, why wait? well this is my point of view. You are absolutely correct in that US graduates have a clear advantage over foreign graduates.

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    they maybe successful despite despite obstacles placed infront...but why put the extra stress out there? the 4 years in undergrad are not just to see if you are admitted to a US school but you grow up in college..those stupid liberal arts courses you are forced to take along with learning to live on your own, interact with peers are invaluable skills in bed side maner and only enhance you as a physician and your ability to connect with your patient

    med school in europe is pretty similar to a US education only they combine the pre req work into the med school curricula first few years so even there you cant really say you are going straight to med school... high school kids need time to mature a bit...i'd be nuts to let a 17 year old pimply faced kid with fresh pubes do some of the things we do or deal with some of the social situations we deal with
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    Well I believe AUCMD is wrong, you cannot judge a persons psychological maturity or the way they handle social interactions by pube freshness lol. Yes there are many advantages in the US if you want to do med school there, the point is that though there will be obstacles medicine is universal, AUCMD's point of view is a little demeaning, UNIBE for example is not like the other Caribbean schools where the medical school is one of the few sorts of revenue the entire island receives, UNIBE is a private university and is in a very large city with many other universities all around.

    And NO it isn't a last resort, to many people it is a first resort, especially the locals. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

    UNIBE has the availability to do rotations without getting "Barred" from the hospital, why so much hostility towards FMG's?, there are people all over the world that need health professionals and not just in the US, also if IMG's didn't go to the US, the US would have an amazing shortage of Doctors.

    So AUCMD get off your high horse, stop dissing carribbean schools and just go your own way, many people realize their dreams at these schools and successfully practice in the states,For me it wasn't a last resort I am here now as a first resort, I personally am saving thousands of dollars, while perfecting my Spanish, as well as Spanish Terminology which will be invaluable in my near future.

    I also know that all the sacrifice I will go through here will make my degree that much more special and dear to me, as well as fortify and edify my character.

    My 2 cents

    Dr. Zabala do whatever you think is right, weigh your pros and cons.
    and let nothing and no one impede you from achieving your dreams.

    P.S I am in the Premed program straight out of highschool, Just started this semester. There are many of us here, hope you will join us one day. Also this message wasn't in hostility, it just bothered me how people will think so narrow minded and occlude hundreds of people from the panorama.
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    how about you goto school, pass step 1 on the first try. then you can try to get rotations at most US university hospitals..good luck with that.so after you pass step 1 do your rotations at whatever hell hole the school sends you to you study and pass step 2.

    after you do that you can graduate and go go through the match..according to the statistics if you are in the 52.3% of fmg's that actually match each year then start your intern year. during your intern year, go through each rotation, study for your inservice exams, pass those. study for your national specialty exam pass that all. in the mean time study, take and pass step 3.

    after you have done the above, move to second year and repeat the in service and specialty exams then make it to third year in your specialty and if you are lucky enough to be in something other than IM, Peds, FP, and psych make it to your fourth year and beyond.

    while you are in residency at a US medical school, do admission cmt for the school and for interview candidates for residency......you know review residency applications and give input into who gets an interview then who gets a spot?

    after yopu have been in the game a bit you will see exactly how valuable your "special degree is" and you will need all that fortification and edification of your character to keep from throwing yourself out a window while less qualified US grads take your prized specialty spot while you email and beg for an interview in some third rate fp program so far removed from anything and anyone that it will take you 3 connecting flights to find your way there

    oh and then you will see that saving all those thousands by going this route adding whatever obstacles and doors closed go with this degree add up to about $30 a month in your student loan payment and that window better be thick glass or on the first floor

    as far as the mad spanish skills..that is a weak rationalization for "choosing" a foreign program..its right below "i wanted to travel and an international expereince"

    seriuosly, i'm not knocking unibe or carib schools down at all..got me where i want. all im saying is that it should be everyones last option who wants to practice in the US..if you wana practice down there more power to you..start unibe before you can say nacho grande..but if your primary goal is to practice in the US by the love of God try to get into a US school first...

    seriously read what i am saying above and the doors that will be automatically closed to you. i swear residency programs have filters and many will not even look at yoru aplication based on school you went to. im not part of your admin to sugar coat things...giving harsh reality which seems like you need.

    you are a pre med...you just finished high school right? tell you what, I am at least 8 years ahead of you so this is the same thing 5th grader telling you what high school and beyond is like.. sorry to break it down to you but you dont think a 5th grader knows anything about high school do you...
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    your logic is ridiculous. There are many variables that are not explained in statistics, as well as the ever mounting physician shortage. There are many states that don't deny residency slots to students, and I know of plenty of physicians who are doing well off who have graduated from UNIBE, How can you even go on the tangent of saying that what would a fifth grader know about highschool that can't even correlate to my situation, Yes i might be in pre-med but that doesn't mean I haven't also done my research, spoken to many people, seen people's struggles firsthand in the US and here in Santo Domingo. It is very sad that you have this god complex that only what you think is right is right, there are many ways to arrive to a conclusion.

    Also Florida already approved my University for rotations in many of the teaching hospitals in Florida, there are also other states which our university has cooperation with. Why don't you read the facts before talking out of your rectum.

    You are displaying textbook psychological projection man, I don't know what troubles you went through but the entire residency world isn't like that, many people get into residencies and do well, so stop catalouging the entire US with your subjective view, HAVE YOU PERSONALLY GONE TO EVERY HOSPIAL AND SPOKEN TO THE RESIDENCY COORDINATOR.

    You are also forgetting the activities people can participate in, UNIBE offers research oppurtunites, community service, we have AMSA, many things which can aid in making a more attractive candidate. What about those, oh wait they don't mean anything...


    That is ridiculous....

    don't create facts out of your own mental construct. Just because you have had your experience whichever committee and state you did it in, you can't subjugate the rest of the experiences of other people who will go all over the US and get their hopes all the way down. Yeah you keep thinking it will go so bad for me, I'll see you when I am chief resident of a hospital as well

    So keep it up with your negativity, take some Dopamine and get happy buddy, live a little and laugh a little, I know I will do good in this school and won't have a problem,struggles yes,but in the end I know I will be where I want to be.

    As a medical student you should know that the level of mental maturity,learning, and neurosynaptic growth is outstanding between 5th grade and beyond, now since I am a freshman in college, and you are yes maybe years beyond me, the neurosynaptic,maturity, and learning, don't have such a drastic gap as a 5th grader with a highshcool student. So stop looking down upon me, The greatest of men and women were once babies (Bob Marley), so you were where I was once, but you cannot compare me to you because you don't know my current life experience or what I have put up with in my life, people like you are an example, who always have a smart answer to "bring people to reality" when in essence you are just trying to self gratify your fragile inner core, by bringing people down based on your sole experience.


    So my discussion with you ends here more power to you, I'll do me PROUDLY!


    -PEACE, LOVE, AND UNIBE


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    Okay now I've been forced out my dark corner to dust my keyboard off and say a few words on this subject.

    If you want to be a physician you should be smart enough to gather information on yourself and make your decision on which school you want to go to on your own.

    As for what can you do now to get a better chance into UNIBE. Honestly there isnt much start the process early to avoid the headache of running around and doing things last minute. And since your in HIGHSCHOOL and not COLLEGE IDK why AUCMD is talking about picking an easy major.=|. You can come straight out of highschool like I did as long as your grades are above the 2.5 mark you have a chance but if you have above a 3.4 your basically guaranteed a spot granted your college essay is not written in crayon.

    With that said once you get here you have to remember that while UNIBE is a great school with only a few setbacks that i've seen so far [Chem teacher =\]. The Dominican Republic is a 3rd World Country. I'm Dominican and I love my country and I know all the beauty and great things it has to offer but there's also many headaches that come with living here.

    If you want to do good in UNIBE however .. you have to find an equilibrium.. [I'm not a believer in STUDY STUDY STUDY nor am i telling you to slack off and just bum around]... Find your equilibrium don't come here and go drinking EVERY weekend but go and enjoy what this country has to offer. A good Balance and keeping SOME teachers on your good side is always beneficial.

    As for this whole first, last, middle choice actually I got accepted into SUNY Stony Brook and Fordham University in New York and I chose UNIBE over it. Why? Because of a multitude of reasons but mostly because of the New Experience, The Cost , The Clinical Experience, and the Amount of Time we graduate in. So to say that this should be your last resort is a big stretch It's THE BEST University in DR. The teachers accents arent as bad as people say they are granted there are a few bad ones but youll get over it. I don't know what it's going to be for Residency, AUCMD but i assure you that I wont let what anyone tells me stop me from achieving my goals and the fact that you compared Bush to a 5th grader was pretty funny to me since your the one that seems to be whining the most here. Look at it this way Even if you had problems/struggles through your life you made it so just forget about everything else. In this case the ENDS DO JUSTIFY THE MEANS. Decide for yourself, Do your own work, and worry not about the other. Those are Frank's Three Commandments for Life.

    Best of Luck in which ever of Life's path you choose to wander aimlessly through
    -Frank B

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