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    future A nesthesiologist???

    hey guys ..this Sept i will be entering my senior year in highschool ...i would like to ask you guys what can i do now to help me better my chances of me getting accepted into UNIBE and what things should i be doing now thats going to work for me in the future once im in UNIBE... i know i have the will and smarts to get through medical school just thinking of all my family members who laugh at me when i say i would like to become a doctor just because i like the club scene not knowing that i can and will sacifice that if it'll interfere with my school ..but anyways getting a little off topic ..id appreciate advise of all sorts from my big brothers and sisters @ value MD

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    Thanks Francisco, I'll see you in Chem lab tomorrow!!



    Dr. Zabala, just whatever decision you make, make sure you have one foot behind the other, have no surprises, and most importantly make sure you know what your getting yourself into, Medical school isn't an easy thing, it breaks a myriad of people, make sure you've weighed every possibility, looked at different scenarios and develop a plan to follow.

    Hope everything works out for you,

    If you decide to come to UNIBE and have any questions regarding the admission procedure, don't fret to PM me.

    God Bless!
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    didnt compare you to a fith grader guy..i said its like you taking advice from a 5th grader..reading comprehension goes a long way on the usmle btw

    i am giving you facts, fact is there are two dozen DO schools opening up, fact is there are about a dozen US allopath schools opening up, fact is the exisiting allopath schools are expanding enrollement, fact is taht it is highly unlikely that residency spots will be expanded much. add all those facts and you get more forweign grads competing for much much less residency spots so that 54% match rate will very likely drop

    fact is i've been to residency cmt at two hospital systems encompasing 5 hospitals in two states, fact is when i interviewed i went to a half dozen states, fact is i have classmates and friends that graduated from US and carib schools who are now attendings, faculty, etc at at least a dozen hospitals. i am not in a mircrocosm where i see nothing and do nothing but dealw ith my hospital, physicians talk about all thise. so all these pooled together lead me to the statements i made

    again i am in no way putting down unibe or carib schools, i think its a great last option for people who wish to practice in teh US. it was for me and enabled me to get where i want. i had a great time in school, made great freinds, learned to catch and cook lobster, watched crab races and studied my butt off but at the same time i'm not dilusional to think that a great deal of doors were not closed to me because of where i went and that many physicians will look down on me for where i went. i also know that many academic positionbs will not be available to me because of where i went..if i wanted academic medicine that is. and that my two very young wanabe docs is what you lack..perspective. because even the best school in dr is still a school in the dr in the eyes of a good ol boy network in academia and residencies

    so again i am not saying you will not succeed from unibe or any carib school, if you comprehend the jist of the message it is that many doors will close to you and you will haver a much harder time than if you went to a US school and that is why any foreign school should be a last resort wether it is the best school in dr or not

    i pray that you are in the 30% or so that makes it past pre med, that you are part of the 50-70% that graduate med school and hope that you are part of the 50% that successfully match each year..i really do and that you will get perspective because right now i am holding a conversation with a premed..a freshman or liek i said liek you trying to explain the intricacies of life to a fifth grader..again for comprehension purposes, i am not comparing you to a fith grader just saying like you holding a conversation as a high school grad with a fifth grader
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    Well yes I do understand your intricacies, I also appreciate your reply and feedback, yes you have been through your own experience and I am not taking that away from you, I got a little defensive because of your general overtone, When you use the allusion of a conversation with a fifth grader and a highschool student, I see the connection but not a wise choice of words. I personally think I will match and do well with my life.

    I'll let the reading comprehension one slide, your just giving me semantics.

    There are also many facts of UNIBE students getting into residencies, even going abroad to Japan and other countries on scholarships for biomedical research. We also have a relationship with Harvard Medical school, which the Dean of Continuing medical education is a Professor Honoraris in our instituition.

    Yeah the DR is still the DR, but let he who sinnith cast the first stone, you shouldn't be one to talk since your an FMG, and look you are chief resident.Yeah I understand if someone wants to do Neurosurgery,or Cardiothoracic surgery, or Derm or something it can be a little harder. But for a vast majority of us FP,IM,PED,PSYCH,and GEN SURGERY sum up what we want to do. Those are not mind blowing to get into and those of us who work hard will be part of the 52% that get in.


    Every coin has two sides, and you gave your opinion for Dr. Zabala and I gave mine.

    Hope all is well in your Gynecology Residency Chief

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    glad you understand what i am saying. you definitely dont have to agree with it but it is a reality of what you will face in the real world. and i can say all this because i am a fmg now in a position that sees the inner workings of things..first words out of the chair during rank meetings when its a fmg is "well he is a fmg BUT..." then fill in the blank what above and beyond other US grads makes this application stand out worthy of an interview. and that is what you will compete against. i am one of only two fmgs in my program and it does make a difference at university hospitals. it matters less at community programs from what i have seen but trust me they also want to match as many US grads as possible probably due to program reputation, braging rights, less cultural issues, much less language complaints and who knows what else

    not chief resident just chief year..year III and IV are chief years because you take chief call, run your services and have minions run around for you now. next year is when we decide who is admin chief

    also gen surg is highly competitive. there are foreign grads i rotated with at a few different hospitals who have 260's and do not match and end up doing a pre lim surg year which you will learn is a colossal waste of time

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    I have to agree with AUCMD. There is no doubt that graduating from a foreign medical school is going to present set backs. It is not impossible for an FMG to land an awsome residency but it is going to come with a struggle. Yes, I'm at UNIBE and I love it. However, UNIBE was not my first choice. UNIBE is the school that gave me the chance to shine. I went to college, completed a ** in Biology and I messed up. My priority was not where it should have been when I was 18. If I could do things differently I would do exactly was AUCMD is suggesting. I would have majored in anything that is less demanding then the sciences. I would complete my degree and shoot for a US school. Going to a foreign medical school is already going to bring up some uncomfortable questions during residency interviews why add more questions by not getting a BA or **. My two cents. My respect to my classmates and everyone else who posted on this topic. Good luck!

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