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    yourmom223 is offline Newbie 510 points
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    Practicing Medicine in Ireland?

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    So here's my situation:

    I am currently a US citizen. I am strongly considering attending a medical school in Ireland (TCD or RCSI), mainly because a lot of my family is moving out there. If I attend one of these schools, can I STAY in Ireland for my internship and residency, especially if I am willing to become an Irish citizen? How do I go about becoming an Irish citizen? Does being in med school there for 5 years allow me to do this?

    Do these schools allow this? Can I apply for residencies in the UK as well? If I graduate from one of these medical schools, how likely am I to get a residency spot in Ireland? Are they guaranteed? How competitive are they, and how much do they pay?

    I found the post below somewhat helpfull. Thanks in advance!




    Regarding our graduates being able to practice in Ireland...it is our understanding that they can apply for temporary registration and may be required to pass the Temporary Registration Assessment Scheme. One of our recent Irish graduates who is doing a US residency was planning to sit the TRAS, but I don't think he has done so yet. The following is from the Medical Council of Ireland web site.
    Doctors who qualify outside the EU/EEA, Switzerland or countries covered by reciprocity - South Africa, Australia (except Tasmania), New Zealand or Saskatchewan(Canada) - may apply for temporary registration once they meet the following requirements:
    Hold a primary qualification in medicine awarded by a medical school listed in the World Health Organisation Directory of Medical Schools
    Hold full registration with an overseas registration authority and be in good standing
    Have completed internship training acceptable to the Medical Council of at least one year’s duration in hospital based specialties

    Doctors who satisfy the above requirements may be admitted to sit the Temporary Registration Assessment Scheme (TRAS). The TRAS is designed to assess a doctor’s English language and clinical skills.The Medical Council recognises that not all doctors should be required to pass the TRAS and certain exemptions are available.
    Scope of temporary registration

    This allows non-EU doctors to be employed and to receive further training in the practice of medicine in a hospital, institution, clinic or general medical practice or in a perscribed health service setting approved of by the Council. Doctors applying for temporary registration are required to pass the Temporary Registration Assesment Scheme (TRAS) unless otherwise exempted. Temporary registration may be granted for a maximum aggregate period of seven years.

    Rules exist for the granting of full registration to doctors who have held temporary registration for an aggregate period of two years and who statisfy the requirements of rules made by the Medical Council and approved by the Minister for Health and Children.

    With regard to N Ireland, it is true they would follow the UK - where an SGUSOM grad qualifying through the PLAB examination can seek Limited Registration with the General Medical Council (once a doctor has Limited Regitsration, they can seek Full Registration within 18 months of training as a Senior House Officer). If a graduate has Full Registration in the UK there should be reciprocity for full registration in Ireland with the opening up of the EU, etc, but that may not be the case if the degree qualification was obtained outside of the EU. If there is not complete reciprocity, being licensed in the UK or US would certainly provide a pathway.

    With regard to loans... as a green-card holder he would be eligible for US government (Stafford) loans. He is also eligible to participate in the private loan programs, but since these are credit based they would be difficult to obtain on his own if he does not have any credit. He could try to obtain these loans with a US co-signor and also should try to build up his credit. If he is already an applicant to the school, he should be talking to the Financial Aid office.

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    Miklos is offline Elite Member 511 points
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    From my conversations with North Americans who went to Ireland, it is not that simple to get post-graduate training in Ireland. Apparently, a fair number of Irish grads head to the UK, as there are far more opportunities there (but currently there are too many grads for too few junior spots).

    Without EU citizenship, I can assure you that the process will be challenging.

    However, I think that you will get a much better response if you post your question on the UK and Ireland forum at SDN.
    Last edited by Miklos; 01-03-2006 at 06:45 AM.

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    Hi...
    It's true being an EU gives u priorities..
    By graduating from an Irish Med school u are almost certain to get an internship position (at least this what happened with RCSI) priority ofcourse in prefrence to EUs..

    No u cant get citizenship while you studying since u will be there with a student visa, U can apply for citizenship I think after working for 5 years or so,,,

    During internship u have a Intership registration with the medical council, after that u get a full registration (only IMG have to go through the medical council exams and stuff, Irish graduates dont).

    UK and Ireland dont have a residency program like the US and Canada. Doctors in Ireland tend to enroll them selves into schemes (Medical,Paeds, OBGYN or BeST for surgery) I dont know much about them but I know the BeST is the (Basic Sugical Training Prog offered by the Royal College or Surgeons) and its known to be a system with No system!!!! If u get into it u are guaranteed a job for 2 years with a BeST cert at the end and a few tutorials a week...

    After that u can apply for the SPR prog and here is where Hell is set loose.. Very competetive and only a few spots a year in each specailty and as expected EUs comes first...

    Pay!!!!!!
    Hmmmmmmmmm not bad but comes at a price. Call system is physically wrecking. 32hrs of non stop work with almost zero sleep (crashing cars post call is normal). Most money is made out of calls not basic pay..
    Working hours very much depends on which hospital ur working in...

    Good LucK

    Oops...
    Just noticed its an old topic...
    Last edited by dxbgal; 08-01-2008 at 04:14 PM.

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    Genetics

    Hi!

    May I ask what do you know about this company GenePlanet, since it is Irish company.
    I noticed it on web. They do genetics, but I have only few information. Did you perhaps discuss personal genetics at your lectures?

    Thanks.

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    internship registration in ireland

    hi
    i have completed my graduation from pakistan.but i havent done internship yet currently i am registered with GMC for foundation year F1 as there is no req of internship for plab but my family has moved to ireland and irish medical council is not allowing me to sit in registration exam as i havent done internship.and they allow only irish graduates to do internship here in ireland.
    is there any way that can help me doing internship in ireland? i also have EC rights.can any body help plz?

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    hey yourmom- not sure if you're still active in this forums, but wondering what you ended up doing? I'm also considering going over to Ireland and would love to be allowed to stay afterwards. But economy is crap right now as well so I know it will be tough. Any advice is appreciated though! (from anyone)

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    hi.
    i have completed my graduation from china and havent done my internship yet...now i am planning to go to irland to do MPH(master in public health)..does anyone know what s the scope after doing mph from university college of cork and at the the same time i want to prepare for licence exam of irland ,will irish medical council allow me to sit in the exam without internship or i can get internship there?please give me some suggestion..
    kind regards

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    I am a high school student (11th grade) in the US, and I really want to study nursing/the medical field in Europe. I would prefer Ireland or England. Do I have to have a certain GPA, and SAT scores? I would also like to know what Universities/Colleges are good to apply for there.

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    Hi,
    I need some information regarding internship if anyone know about it. I live in Canada. My medical education is from Pakistan, I finish my education in 2008 but couldn't finish my internship there because of personal reasons. Now I want to apply for internship program. I have written Medical Council of Canada Evaluating Examination (MCCEE) and The Medical Council of Canada Qualifying Examination Part I (MCCQE Part I) .So can I still apply for internship this year.
    thanks

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