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    hello, i wanted to know abt the new MD in clinical medicine program thats jus started by the university of buckingham. is it a legit course? pros cons.....any info would be very helpful.

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    Did you look at its web pages? Medicine: MBBS
    The biggest "con" is probably that they say the first cohort of students is not planned until 2010.
    If does ever get off the ground (it has been many years in the making - but I suspect it will eventually fly) it would be "legit". It's not easy to set up a fully accredited course in the U.K. - a lot is demanded of the school before it even opens its doors. How it will compare with other U.K. schools remains to be seen.
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    Don't ever consider attending a private medical school in the UK! If it's not a state school then it will never be recognised by the GMC. It might be ok for going back to the states but, you'll never be able to practise medicine in GB.

    Also I would have thought the teaching staff would be very suspect as I can't really see a decent UK licensed Dr. teaching at a private school.

    The cost of living in the UK would probably be around the same price as attending a Carabbean school with all costs inclusive except without any of benefits (like a valid Medical degree!!)

    I could be wrong but, I doubt it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Back_To_School View Post
    Don't ever consider attending a private medical school in the UK! If it's not a state school then it will never be recognised by the GMC. It might be ok for going back to the states but, you'll never be able to practise medicine in GB.

    Also I would have thought the teaching staff would be very suspect as I can't really see a decent UK licensed Dr. teaching at a private school.

    The cost of living in the UK would probably be around the same price as attending a Carabbean school with all costs inclusive except without any of benefits (like a valid Medical degree!!)

    I could be wrong but, I doubt it.
    Sorry but I'm afraid you are wrong - completely and utterly. Although I can understand the confusion given that the GMC has highlighted the unlicensable status of some private, unaccredited, unchartered U.K. "medical schools".
    Bucks. University is indeed a private university (still the only one in the U.K.?), but it long ago established a decent reputation and crucially has a Royal Charter giving it entitlement to call itself a degree-awarding university within the U.K. meaning of the term. It has nothing in common with those GMC-blacklisted institutions.
    Bucks. students are eligible for whatever miserable public grants are still available to our students. Its private status simply means that unlike the other institutions it gets little or no public funding for capital development and revenue expenditure. However the GMC cares not a jot about this as long as it is a pukka university and the medical school proposals and subsequent performance are satisfactory.
    The med. school aims to get GMC accreditation before it admits students. Of course no one should part with money until they see the bona fides: but this is not some Caribbean Pirate that is likely to take anybody's gelt or admit students before it gains the appropriate accreditaion.
    The Dean-designate Prof. ***** ****** (see for yourself here http://www.buckingham.ac.uk/medicine/)
    is one of the country's leading oncologists and holds or has held a number of academic teaching posts as well as research appointments. He is one of the "great and the good in British medicine" and not likely to lend his name to some fraudulent or "invalid" degree course. But then neither is Buckingham University. One advantage for the incipient school of having someone like this on board is that the GMC and other interested parties have been sounded out extensively over many years about the project.
    By the way, for a long time this new med. school was intended to be a partnership between Bucks and Brunel (a state-funded university). I don't know the current status of that proposed link.
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    hmmmm.........i already contacted the university , spoke to the prof , the course is already up and running , the first batch started in may this year , im joining the next batch in jan , its a 2 yr masters in clinical medicine, they said its recognized by the QAA( QUALITY ASSURANCE AGENCY) who is authorised to give accredition for any post graduate course in uk including medical courses, the gmc has the right to recognize only under graduate courses.

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    Drvempire, my apologies for the confusion.
    Buckingham is offering 2 courses: this post-grad. clinical med. course which has started already and an MBBS due to start in 2010.
    I had foolishly assumed you were talking about the MBBS as that is what most on this forum would be interested in (and I can't get used to this Indian-style usage of MD as a specialist post graduate course).
    My comments above are widely applicable to your course also - perfectly reputable university etc. The idea is ingenious - fill the gap left since it became so difficult for overseas MD's to obtain post-graduate clinical training here.
    The QAA is indeed the appropriate q.a. body (it oversees all UK universities).
    The staffing looks impressive; the same prof. mentioned above also features. The hospital is a decent one.
    I can't say whether the teaching and clinical opportunities will meet all your expectations. However I can say that this is perfectly legitimate and looks promising.
    If you have concerns the really smart thing to do would be to speak with some of the current students.
    Last edited by diogenes; 08-11-2008 at 06:45 PM.
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    I think that it is important to note that this MD is a doctorate degree in medicine (ie. postgraduate degree), and thus is an academic degree and not postgraduate medical training, which are two different things.

    Postgraduate degrees are qualifications awarded after undergraduate (bachelor degrees) education eg. MSc/MD/PhD

    Postgraduate medical training is medical training (akin to residency) within in UK.

    It will be very difficult for non-EU nationals to enter UK postgraduate medical training post MMC.

    Good luck!

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    I haven't been on VMD for some time, and haven't heard anything about this new venture by the University of Buckingham whilst at university. I also haven't looked into it in any great depth, however if you look at the profiles of each staff member, this department would seem to have a fantastic faculty.

    Until you are fully au fait with this new development, it would certainly be best to reserve judgement.

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    Has anybody heard when the MBBS will start?

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    more information about 2 YR md clinical medicine programme by university of buckingam

    hi guys.....
    i am an m.b.b.s gradute with 3 yrs of clinical experince from india.....with failure to get admission in clinical postgraduate programme in india i just started looking for programmes abroad....and in my search i went to come across this programme...little curious i contacted university and some profesor replied to my queries.....but i am still not sure about its recognition as it is not recognized by GMC nad students enrolling into this does not get registered in GMC Register....so some body qualifying from that university how will be able to work in UK without registration,,,,,,,?????
    Further is this university worth enough or a fraudent????
    somebody help me......
    thanx
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