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    States that disapprove or limit licensure of SMU grads

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    I copied and pasted the message bellow from the SMU official forum. This should be made a sticky so that prospective student know what is going on. Furthermore, this can eliminate all cali questions.


    "I emailed CA today about our status at SMU, as well as requirements for licensure concerning ACGME-accredited rotations. Here is the email...

    I hope that past and current St. Matthew's students realize that they are not eligible to train in or become licensed in California. Because St. Matthew's University is a disapproved school, no coursework completed at St. Matthew's can be applied toward the requirements to train in or become licensed in California.

    To date, St. Matthew's University has not applied for recognition by the California Board. In the future, St. Matthew's University could remedy its deficiencies and then reapply and request the California Medical Board to reevaluate the school. It's possible that the Board would grant St. Matthew's recognition after a new site inspection, if they are satisfied with the improvements that the school has made. It would take the Board several years to complete the new review process and reach a decision.

    However, if St. Matthew's gains recognition in the future, the recognition will be PROSPECTIVE from the date of the decision. Only those students who enroll in the school AFTER the decision date will be eligible to train in or become eligible for licensure. Previous St. Matthew's students/graduates will not be eligible for "grandfathering" or "individual review" or other such devices. They will not be able to practice medicine in California, regardless of whether they train in or obtain licensure in another state.

    No Californian should be training in an unrecognized or disapproved medical school. Offshore school administrators should not enroll Californians based on optimistic promises to obtain California recognition in the future or to win lawsuits against the California Medical Board.

    If you would like to become eligible to train in or become licensed in California, you will need to transfer into a California-recognized medical school and repeat ALL coursework you completed at St. Matthew's or any other medical school that the California Board doesn't recognize or has disapproved.

    If you complete any part of your medical education in an unrecognized or disapproved school, you will need to plan a medical career in another state that recognizes the school's education and diplomas.

    To respond to your question about California's clinical training requirements, California law requires 72 weeks of clinical training. A total of 54 weeks of training, including all cores, must be completed in approved teaching hospitals. Up to 18 weeks of electives may be completed in non-approved facilities. St. Matthew's students cannot complete any clinical training in California facilities of any type, as this would constitute a misdemeanor criminal offense.
    Pat Park, Foreign Schools Liaison, Medical Board of California"
    Last edited by studentMD; 10-04-2005 at 06:49 PM.
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    Nimmuk!

    Nimmuk you're a genius and a God send!! Keep this Cali topic in one easy to avoid sticky!! I LOVE IT!!

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    Does this apply to Indiana, Kansas, and Texas as well?

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    Yes!

    Quote Originally Posted by t_diddy43
    Does this apply to Indiana, Kansas, and Texas as well?
    OH YES! Keep ALL this discussion in one place!! I love it...Cali, Texas, Indiana and Kansas all in ONE PLACE!! Yippee!! No more threads please! Everyone post here!!

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    Has the school re-applied? Just wondering if someone is still working on California, I haven't seen any updates on the school's website or this one. Can someone tell me if there are any updates? This *ISNT* a call to arms, LOL. I know this is a touchy topic.
    Another question. How come there are students placed in Texas on residencies but...we're not licensed to practice there? I'm so confused. Thanks for your patience with a potential student.
    Last edited by drmcdreamy; 10-11-2005 at 11:34 PM.

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    At the clinical seminar they said California was under "legal review", nothing more was said.
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    License

    Many states are case by case for applicants and only a handful have an approval/licensing process (i.e. NY, FL, CA) . This goes for ALL medical schools, not just SMU. If you are still unclear, contact the school and they will be happy to explain in detail.

    Quote Originally Posted by drmcdreamy
    Another question. How come there are students placed in Texas on residencies but...we're not licensed to practice there? I'm so confused. Thanks for your patience with a potential student.
    Last edited by SMU-Info; 10-12-2005 at 05:28 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by drmcdreamy
    Another question. How come there are students placed in Texas on residencies but...we're not licensed to practice there? I'm so confused. Thanks for your patience with a potential student.
    To add to what SMU-Info wrote, it is much easier to get a Training license in Texas than it is to get a permanent license. A training license is aking to routine paperwork and can only be used for residency training. A permanent license involves the board checking your credentials; checking on your school, etc. That's why a lot of ppl can be in residency in TX but never get to actually practice there.

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    I see this one coming from a mile away...

    Most Carib schools have to obtain licensure on a case by case basis for Texas with Ross being the notable exception. The TMB visited Ross University after its students were routinely denied licensure there. Ross busted out the lawyers, the TMB went to Dominica, they (the TMB) voted Ross to be a school equivalent to a Texas school, Ross students don't have a problem obtaining licensure in Texas. The TMB does not usually do site visits, it only did so because of the situation with Ross.
    Juni

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