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    SMU Alumni who survived the school and is a chief resident - honest thoughts

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    I finished at SMU in 2010 (the basic science island portion), started there end of 2008.
    Clinicals I finished in 2015 (Short leave of absence for monetary reasons)

    Just to give a brief history of my timeline:
    - Spent exactly 5 semesters on the island my class size starting was 120 maybe? and I would guess 20-25% of us finished without failing any classes (myself included)
    - Teaching I found sporadic, some profs were great (Pathology, Pharm at the time when the former dean taught, Anatomy) and some classes were horrendous specifically biochem at the time
    - Teachers and class focus wayyyyy too much on material that was not tested on step 1 in my opinion
    - Overall the basic science portion was fine, some classes good some classes bad, I think if you keep your head down and grind you can certainly do well on step 1 and subsequently step 2

    Clinicals: (here is where I have my biggest problem with SMU)
    - I did the majority of clinicals in Chicago when we still had access to Mt. Sinai (im told its a ross straight track now?) - I know from one of the OB directors there who worked with SMU that the straight track was offered to SMU but our program declined d/t the cost (which I'm told was pretty exorbitant)
    - I did some portion of clinicals in florida which I found frankly a huge pain to schedule - I had one dean telling me I was good to go and then after starting a rotation Dr. M.D. (another dean) telling me I had to withdraw cause I didn't talk to him first and I essentially had to beg to not get a rotation I was currently doing cancelled
    - Clinicals were a huge pain to schedule in sequence however that seems to be typical of any Caribbean medical school
    - Once you match for residency suddenly the school does get interested and start making your scheduling incredibly easy however.

    Matching: I matched to my #1 IM program however I really wanted a subspecialty match which I did not get (which I don't fault the school for - I should have been a more prepared applicant)
    - I will say as a chief resident my program does interview some IMGs however its entirely dependent on step scores, they are hesitant to interview anybody with a step1/2 average less than 220 or so however the bar is much much lower for US graduate applicants (graduates from US schools to be clear). Also to be clear I don't think my program director knows any differences about any Carib school so being from a supposed "top 3" or whatever makes utterly no difference to him at least.
    - Even after the fact when I applied for a cardiology fellowship the school was INCREDIBELY unhelpful with merely loading my MSPE and med school transcript, which considering that several SMU grads have done or are doing residency at my program is insane to me, I would have thought they wanted to harbor a good relationship with alumni

    MY OVERALL THOUGHTS:
    - There really are better school to consider: SGU/SABA match lists have gotten better and more impressive over the years and honestly aren't hard to get into
    - If you are a marginal collegiate student you would be better served doing a 1 year masters bridge to a university program
    - Consider after passing step 1 applying to transfer to a US school (Chicago med Rosalind seemed pretty open to it)
    - You can do well and get residency at SMU obviously but you will have to grind for it and honestly I don't feel they will really help you in the end.
    Last edited by SMUalumni; 07-21-2017 at 07:08 AM.

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    The truth is that you're full of it. The school literally writes positive success stories near the end of the semesters to get more people to fall into the scam. This is your only post, so you don't exactly have the best track record of supplying accurate information. When you say you can do well and get a residency at SMU, you have to look at official NRMP data beforehand, which will tell you that only 1/3 of people who apply from SMU are able to obtain a residency (this doesn't include over 90% of students from SMU who get weeded out). That's correct, from the surviving 10% of students, only 1/3 will get a residency. No SMU has or ever will ever be a chief resident. And if you are Canadian, please find a different career. With the new H1B regulations, it's going to be impossible for you to obtain a residency in the states.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smuvictim0001 View Post
    The truth is that you're full of it. The school literally writes positive success stories near the end of the semesters to get more people to fall into the scam. This is your only post, so you don't exactly have the best track record of supplying accurate information. When you say you can do well and get a residency at SMU, you have to look at official NRMP data beforehand, which will tell you that only 1/3 of people who apply from SMU are able to obtain a residency (this doesn't include over 90% of students from SMU who get weeded out). That's correct, from the surviving 10% of students, only 1/3 will get a residency. No SMU has or ever will ever be a chief resident. And if you are Canadian, please find a different career. With the new H1B regulations, it's going to be impossible for you to obtain a residency in the states.
    did you even read the post?

    I whole heartedly stand behind my statement that it SGU/SABA seem like far better options and are just as easy to get into it
    I even ended saying that the school wont help you

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    I am no SMU fanboy, but geez Louise...

    Quote Originally Posted by smuvictim0001 View Post
    The truth is that you're full of it.
    Um... n=1. We cannot tell the OP that his/her experience (if legitimate) is inaccurate. I don't know if the OP is on the level, or not, but neither do you... and his/her stated experience was not exactly confidence-inspiring. This does not read like any sort of endorsement at all -- and I have seen a few of those here on VMD over the years.

    Quote Originally Posted by smuvictim0001 View Post
    The school literally writes positive success stories near the end of the semesters to get more people to fall into the scam.
    That may be true, but I would be surprised if SMU would write such a tepid, milquetoast review of themselves. "Yeah, I got a residency but did not get the fellowship I really wanted, and the school totally sucked in helping me apply for fellowship." You think that experience would make any applicant think "OooooooOOOooooh! SIGN ME UP!"

    Quote Originally Posted by smuvictim0001 View Post
    This is your only post, so you don't exactly have the best track record of supplying accurate information.
    Everybody has a first post.

    Quote Originally Posted by smuvictim0001 View Post
    When you say you can do well and get a residency at SMU, you have to look at official NRMP data beforehand, which will tell you that only 1/3 of people who apply from SMU are able to obtain a residency (this doesn't include over 90% of students from SMU who get weeded out). That's correct, from the surviving 10% of students, only 1/3 will get a residency.
    Again, n=1. I personally know an SMU grad who has gone on to a fine career as a military physician... but that does not mean that most SMU students are headed for the Army Medical Corps. Heck, almost none are. However, the most we can accurately say here is "The chances of success are pretty damn low, numbers-wise, but YMMV."

    Quote Originally Posted by smuvictim0001 View Post
    No SMU has or ever will ever be a chief resident.
    Shake that magic 8-ball again. "Never has been" does not equate to "never will be," and I would imagine that you know that. Now, I would say that the chances are not high of SMU putting out a chief resident (not that this is any particular benchmark, in and of itself), and if I were a betting man I would not put any amount of money on it... but come on.

    Quote Originally Posted by smuvictim0001 View Post
    And if you are Canadian, please find a different career. With the new H1B regulations, it's going to be impossible for you to obtain a residency in the states.
    Here I agree wholeheartedly. Well, maybe not on the "find a different career" part, but definitely that SMU would be a bad choice for a Canuck seeking medical education.

    I have no dog in this fight, myself, but it is important to choose proper targets for your posts. I doubt this was one of them, and I doubt that the OP was/is "full of it."
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    smuvictim0001 is offline Newbie 510 points
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    Quote Originally Posted by mahidac View Post
    did you even read the post?

    I whole heartedly stand behind my statement that it SGU/SABA seem like far better options and are just as easy to get into it
    I even ended saying that the school wont help you
    First and foremost, you have multiple aliases. SMUalumni=mahidac. That ruins your credibility by a whole lot.
    Secondly, you stated negatives which exist for every school, yet the outcome was positive. You made it!

    Quote Originally Posted by mahidac View Post
    I barely matched into an IM program however I really wanted a subspecialty match which I did not get (which I don't fault the school for - fellowships are hard to obtain, and near impossible for SMU grads)
    Fixed

    Quote Originally Posted by mahidac View Post
    Also to be clear I don't think my program director knows any differences about any Carib school so being from a supposed "top 3" or whatever makes utterly no difference to him at least...which is the only reason why I matched into anything
    Fixed

    Quote Originally Posted by mahidac View Post
    The odds are you won't do well and get residency at SMU despite the obvious efforts you put forth and grind for it
    Fixed

    The rest of your post is somewhat agreeable

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    Pharmacology prof

    Academic Affairs - MD Program, Senthil ***** Rajasekaran, MD Associate Dean for Academic Affairs Professor, Department of Physiological Sciences MAVTS on U...

    Anyone remembers dr. *****. He was my pharmacology prof during my basic sciences at SMU back in 2007. He did a good job because I only reviewed his ppt and did UW questions and I was good for the step 1 for pharm, that was one of my strong subject. He was a good prof. Now he is the associate dean for academic affairs at Eastern Virginia medical school. His wife is doing is residency in Virginia in Internal medicine.




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