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    Hey Brian!

    I've read through a good chunk of your posts and have a couple of questions - I'm in Toronto as well! I'm planning to apply at SMU as well as MUA. I would be starting with premed, and then go on to the 4yr md program.

    1) I've heard many pros & cons to carribean med schools, has it been a smooth journey thus far?
    2) SMU is not accredited by NCFMEA and does not have rotations in cali + ny, is that something to worry about?
    3) How are the exams, professors and Step 1 reviews?
    4) On the website, it states that you can have NY clinicals, but on another page it doesn't list NY as a state to have clinicals...lol kinda confusing
    5) In addition to exams, do you write NBMEs for finals?

    This is all I have for now, but if you have any other comments I will appreciate it!
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    Bump... lol

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    I am curious to know as well... I would be in the same boat as you P-MD. I'm from Calgary, AB. Just started my application few days ago and I am not sure what to write about my personal essay as I feel I have lived an abundant life...

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    Hey Guys,

    Sorry for the delay in my response, I will try my best to answer the questions posted by P-MD.

    1. No, Lol. The reason I'm saying no to, "has it been a smooth journey", is because studying abroad rarely ever goes smoothly. I think that SMUFOM has gotten much better in regards to providing its students a smooth experience but with every school there are hiccups. Lets just say by the time you get here all hiccups will have been taken care of.

    2. No it shouldn't be something you worry about unless you want to do a residency in those states. You can not do a residency in those states but you can get licensed after a certain amount of time, California is 10 years after you have been licensed. Also, the school is not accredited by the NCFMEA but from what I have been told is the school just moved to this location and is preparing to apply for accreditation. Not being accredited by the NCFMEA will have no impact on your success in getting licensed in Canada or the United States.

    3. Exams are hard and classes are good to great depending on which class you are taking and who is teaching it. Step prep at this stage for me has been on my downtime but will change once I start MD4.

    4. As I mentioned earlier there are certain states we can not do a residency in due to specific state laws. We can however do 12 weeks of clinicals in New York and then after completing 3 yrs of GME (in another state) we can apply for licensure in New York.

    5. We currently don't write NBMEs after rotations but have heard they will be implementing that very very soon.

    Hope that helps and look forward to meeting you in the future.

    Brian

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    Quote Originally Posted by Torontoguy81 View Post
    Hey Guys,

    Sorry for the delay in my response, I will try my best to answer the questions posted by P-MD.

    1. No, Lol. The reason I'm saying no to, "has it been a smooth journey", is because studying abroad rarely ever goes smoothly. I think that SMUFOM has gotten much better in regards to providing its students a smooth experience but with every school there are hiccups. Lets just say by the time you get here all hiccups will have been taken care of.

    2. No it shouldn't be something you worry about unless you want to do a residency in those states. You can not do a residency in those states but you can get licensed after a certain amount of time, California is 10 years after you have been licensed. Also, the school is not accredited by the NCFMEA but from what I have been told is the school just moved to this location and is preparing to apply for accreditation. Not being accredited by the NCFMEA will have no impact on your success in getting licensed in Canada or the United States.

    3. Exams are hard and classes are good to great depending on which class you are taking and who is teaching it. Step prep at this stage for me has been on my downtime but will change once I start MD4.

    4. As I mentioned earlier there are certain states we can not do a residency in due to specific state laws. We can however do 12 weeks of clinicals in New York and then after completing 3 yrs of GME (in another state) we can apply for licensure in New York.

    5. We currently don't write NBMEs after rotations but have heard they will be implementing that very very soon.

    Hope that helps and look forward to meeting you in the future.

    Brian

    Hello Brian,

    Thanks for the feedback I greatly appreciate this and so will P-MD.

    Question:

    1) Was is difficult to get in? (Currently getting interview setup)
    2) This may be personal but how are you funding your schooling? I'm thinking I may have to take out some student loans...

    3) to comment on exams, I was never very good on exams... but hard is relative IMO. I think if you study and apply it you'll learn it. I'm the type of person that learns by doing. I assume you are in MD3? and you still have exams? So are these exams written or practical exams? and if so, are these exams based on what you are doing at your clinical?

    4) is there free wifi?

    5) is it cheaper to live on campus or off?

    6) Do you know anything about the Pre-Med program? because I have to take that first and I prefer to do that anyways. I took some back in Uni when I was 18 but I can't really recall a thing. I know its going to be a lot of hard work, and a lot of studying. But do you know if the work load is more than anywhere else? or its pretty much all the same.

    Sorry to hijack your thread P-MD

    Steve
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    ^ No problem at all, Steve! Those are excellent questions that I'd like to know the answers to as well! haha. I know osap would cover approx $7000, and i'm assuming the rest would need to be coming from a LOC.

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    Hi Dayclone and P-MD,

    1. I can't tell you whether it is difficult or easy to get in because it all depend on your credentials. If you have a good GPA, great extra curriculars, and a pleasant disposition (interview), you should have no problems.
    2. I am using OSAP and a medical student line-of-credit from TD Canada Trust.
    3. I'm in MD 4. Theory classes are written exams taken on the schools computer system, practical exams are for ICM (clinical skills) classes and happens mostly in ICM-4(MD4).
    4. Yes the school provides free access to wifi while on campus.
    5. It is much cheaper to live on campus but I think it is first come first serve, so you need to lock that in asap.
    6. Like any premed courses they will be difficult if you have no background but they are not impossible. Your professor will help you with whatever concerns you have. If you work hard and the right way, you should be fine.

    Hope that helps. Good Luck.

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    Hello Brian,
    I am a Canadian student looking to transfer to St. Martinus from another Caribbean school because they have lost Canadian federal loan funding. I have completed basic sciences and passed the USMLE step 1 so will be looking to enter the Clinical Sciences program. Can you tell me about which hospitals they have and if they are ACGME accredited. I'd like to set up at one site and do all my core rotations there if possible. Any information you have regarding Clinicals would be greatly appreciated.
    Thank You

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