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    st james vs st martinus

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    please give me your honest opinions about both schools if you have info.
    thank you for your help
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    st james definately...cant even list the reason but i think just about in every way possible...although st james buildings might be uglier?

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    aaaah

    ditch both, bad history, try unibe..seriously

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    Comparing two schools

    The forums are good places to gather information. However, schools change from year to year - profs come and go. Schools add classes and building as they grow. These things take time.
    The best way to compare the schools is to one ask current students and graduated student in practice by sending them private messages. This will tell you the real scop about the school. Second is to go to see the schools. This also takes away the shock that there is not a super Walmart, on the island you will live for many months.
    I have been to Bonaire twice and I have seen the school. Bonaire use to only sell three types of beer. For a small fortune you can buy Cuba cigars. Bonaire has only one beach and it was man made. However, it does have some of the best diving. It does have an airport that can support a 747 landing on it. In contrast with Saba where you have a short runway that only a STOL plane can fly into.
    So that brings up the third point, go the islands websites and check them out. Also there are big cultural differences between islands. These will make your life pleasant or really sucky. My advise, choose an island out of the hurricane belt for the next few years. A hurricane is a major event, they disrupt boats, flights, power generation and water supply. They can destroy buildings. Look at New Orleans, Mobile Al, and the gulf coast which has been pounded in the last two years. Bonaire has only taken wave damage back in 1999 from a hurricane. It did not stop power or water supply. These are all things to consider.
    Also look out for cheerleaders - people who cheer about their school and muck slingers - people who toss a load about island schools in general. Before you head to any island school you need to be focused on your reasons for this choice.
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    Checking out the Websites

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    please give me your honest opinions about both schools if you have info.
    Hi Silver,
    If you check out the websites these are the red flags to look for and questions about - St James has Grads - St M does not - St M having started in 2003 will just be sending students to clinical rotations now. They do not list a pass rate on the USMLE Step 1 exam. St James does have a pass rate posted. St M has a large staff posted onthe website.
    St M. does have an impressive list of clinical rotations sites in the US, Canada. Both are associated with a local hospital. St James cost less. The rest of the questions are up to you. In the case of Island schools - one factor to look at do they have grads in practice. That helps unless you want to tread the path of an explorer. just my .02
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    sjsm vs st martinus

    Quote Originally Posted by jameslynton
    Hi Silver,
    If you check out the websites these are the red flags to look for and questions about - St James has Grads - St M does not - St M having started in 2003 will just be sending students to clinical rotations now. They do not list a pass rate on the USMLE Step 1 exam. St James does have a pass rate posted. St M has a large staff posted onthe website.
    St M. does have an impressive list of clinical rotations sites in the US, Canada. Both are associated with a local hospital. St James cost less. The rest of the questions are up to you. In the case of Island schools - one factor to look at do they have grads in practice. That helps unless you want to tread the path of an explorer. just my .02
    This is a good begining. I would recomend a bit more. Most of the info u found are from websites. It would be best as jameslynton suggested to get in touch with a current student. and then decide.
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    hey
    i went to martinus for 2 semesters and had to transfer to saint james because of a better financial aid package. curacao is a lot better then bonaire if you're going to be stuck on an island for 2 years. martinus has a really nice building, ok teachers, and they dont curve their exams like some teachers in saint james so you do have to study more to pass the classes which could be a bad thing depending on your study habits. martinus also has a strict attendance policy which also could be a bad thing. however, saint james is a lot better organized when it comes to clinicals. as far as i know saint martinus still does not have any of their students in clinicals in the us, much less residency. when i was there the whole school just seemed really shady when it comes to clinicals. but for basic science martinus was by far better. but it's really the clinical part that counts, so i would advise you to go to saint james, i'm doing clinicals in chicago right now and i'm not having any problems setting them up. hope this helps. good luck

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    ditch both, bad history, try Saba, Ross, AUC or SGU...seriously
    Last edited by islandhopper; 05-30-2006 at 07:34 PM.

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    Edited due to TOS violation, I respect that!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ashdoctor
    hey
    i went to martinus for 2 semesters and had to transfer to saint james because of a better financial aid package. curacao is a lot better then bonaire if you're going to be stuck on an island for 2 years. martinus has a really nice building, ok teachers, and they dont curve their exams like some teachers in saint james so you do have to study more to pass the classes which could be a bad thing depending on your study habits. martinus also has a strict attendance policy which also could be a bad thing. however, saint james is a lot better organized when it comes to clinicals. as far as i know saint martinus still does not have any of their students in clinicals in the us, much less residency. when i was there the whole school just seemed really shady when it comes to clinicals. but for basic science martinus was by far better. but it's really the clinical part that counts, so i would advise you to go to saint james, i'm doing clinicals in chicago right now and i'm not having any problems setting them up. hope this helps. good luck
    Actually the New Asst. Dean with the Dean has enacted stricter grading and attendence policies this semester ( it has always been 80%) At St. James. Also there are some more things in store like the new Cadaver lab this semester.

    As far as History? The stuff I know is good, there were some
    Negative stuff due to another medschool who used to be here stealing students and causing havoc on the island but now things are so much better here with only St. James.( not trying to start anything just the locals here tell the stories, business owners and home owners who lease ) I like the island. Food easy to get and it doesn't cost too much to live here. The professors are okay ( yea there a a couple I could do without ) The anatomy professor and new Physio professor are really good.

    Mostly the problem is that this school is not all 50 states.
    It does not have pretty buildings They need work!
    The clinicals are okay as far as I understand it.
    Good student to professor ratio, small classes, biggest is about 35


    Yea not in the league of the Big 4 (ROSS,SGU, AUC and SABA) and I do not know if or when they will be? There needs to be more progress here first.


    I really hate "which school" "school vs school" threads I think they are in poor taste. just ask about the school and leave it at. that most students like me only know about the school we go to. I do not know enough about the big 4 either just that they have a better track record and all 50 states.
    Last edited by MYMD; 05-30-2006 at 08:04 PM.

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