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    do many people fail or drop out after they begin. i am more concerned with failing because i know medical shcool is tough. do they try to make you stay in or is it easy to fail out?

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    Re: do many people fail or drop out?

    Quote Originally Posted by julian187
    do many people fail or drop out after they begin. i am more concerned with failing because i know medical shcool is tough. do they try to make you stay in or is it easy to fail out?
    A few drop out, but most likely because they decided medicine was not for them (or rather the 4 years of med school wasn't.) The school has some programs and procedures built in to help students and keep them from failing. They don't want you to fail. They want you to do well because it makes them look good (who can blame them?). Huge attrition rates makes the school look bad.

    For one, they have the "alternate program" where you only take 1/2 the number of classes at a time. It still takes you longer to finish, but some find it helpful in lowering the course load and accompanying stress level. With a rough guestimation based on what people tell me, i'd say between 50-100 of the 1st term class decides to "decel" (as it is known amongst students.)

    Also a "unified" quiz covering all 4 courses is usually given after 4 weeks of classes in 1st term (not given this year due to the hurricane) and some can use it as a gauge for how well they are doing.

    And if you fail any midterms, the school is usually pretty fast in getting in contact with you and offering to help you in any way possible.

    There is a student resource program called DES which runs review sessions as well has a plethora of other aids (including tudors) to help you study better and learn material.

    Is it easy to fail? Yes. Don't go to class, don't study, and party all the time and you will buy yourself a quick way out of SGU.

    If you are concerned about failing, ask yourself why you feel that way. Do you have something in your undergrad history that would lead you to believe that is a very possible option? Can you handle stress? especially being far from home and away from the comforts you take for granted? If you need to, can you ask for help? Some people wait too long before they realize they need some extra help.

    Is med school hard? Yes. Is it unbearable? For some it is. I'll never forget the time a doctor told me the 2 years of basic sciences were the worst 2 years of her life. Will you know if you can master med school if you don't try? No. But if you have any issues that you think might impair your academic success, try to get those taken care of before the first lecture - whether that is test taking anxiety, study skills, or a learning difference. DES can help you with those, but if you can deal with them before med school, it is one less thing to worry about. Even if you get down there and find out you have some serious problems to work on or got off on the wrong track and are without hope of passing, you can take a leave of absence and try again the following term.
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    Re: do many people fail or drop out?

    Quote Originally Posted by julian187
    do many people fail or drop out after they begin. i am more concerned with failing because i know medical shcool is tough. do they try to make you stay in or is it easy to fail out?
    very few leave ie drop out. about 20-25% decel because they failed or are strugglign up from the historical 10% or so. In the us this figure is 0-10% generally. I would say if you go in worrying about failing, youre setting yourself up to do so. Anxiety is your worst enemy. medicine isnt hard. its ALOT. Think of all the people who've made it through med school. Theyre not all smarter than you. Take that approach instead.
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    Failure

    Don't worry about failing. Rather focus on passing and doing well.

    I had the same worries when I finally got accepted, because my undergad GPA wasn't so hot. It was barely above a 3.0. I voiced my thoughts to a family friend. He said to me, "The hardest part isn't surviving. The hardest part is getting in. If you're good enough to get admitted, it means you are probably good enough to pass the program."

    I ended up doing well. I didn't make IEA, but I definitely learned the material. You will have to work hard, but you can get through it. Don't think, "Will I pass?" Rather think, "What do I need to do to not only pass, but to do well?"

    Good luck,

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    Re: Failure

    while doing well is great i promise you one thing: no one outside of sgu will ever say the letters "IEA" to you in that order.
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    what is it????

    Can someone please tell me what IEA stands for, still a lot of sgu terminology that I dont quite understand.


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    Re: what is it????

    Quote Originally Posted by envivany1
    Can someone please tell me what IEA stands for, still a lot of sgu terminology that I dont quite understand.


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    iota epsilon alpha. You wont find it in any standard medical terminology book as no one else cares about it. its the honor society.
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