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    SGU or MUA???

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    Looking for advice on whether to attend SGU or MUA in the Caribbean. I realize that St. George's has been around for much longer and is considered the top 1 choice when looking into the caribbean route. Yet, their tuition has become very high over the years and they are now accepting 1000+ students so the amount of academic support given to each student is less. In comparison, MUA hasn't been around for that long but has comparable scores in terms of Step 1, smaller class sizes, and a lower tuition....but then again, MUA hasn't received as much recognition as SGU has. So, I'm looking for some opinions on whether SGU's large tuition is worth the few benefits I receive in terms of applying for residencies in the future? Or is MUA the better option in the long run?

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    As an MUA graduate I would say if you can afford to go to SGU then I would go there first. I am very happy with MUA but I think SGU has more resources and solid clinical rotations.

    people who fail out of SGU and MUA are those that do not perform well on exams and some would say, perhaps not ready to be physicians.

    Personally, I didn't apply to SGU because I could not afford it. I am in an excellent residency program in the area I want, and if I went to SGU I could not have done better.

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    Thank you for your informative reply

    You mentioned that you would recommend SGU because it has a more solid foundation in terms of clinical rotations. Could you give me some insight into clinical rotations at MUA? Was there a longer wait time for rotations or was it harder to receive good rotation spots?

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    Quote Originally Posted by don1 View Post
    As an MUA graduate I would say if you can afford to go to SGU then I would go there first. I am very happy with MUA but I think SGU has more resources and solid clinical rotations.

    people who fail out of SGU and MUA are those that do not perform well on exams and some would say, perhaps not ready to be physicians.

    Personally, I didn't apply to SGU because I could not afford it. I am in an excellent residency program in the area I want, and if I went to SGU I could not have done better.
    As an SGU student, I definitely believe that some part of the higher tuition is paying for the name. Every residency program knows SGU and knows that SGU's graduates are competent, qualified, and professional (or at least they better be after all the professionalism lectures we have to listen to). I think don1 summed up the difference pretty nicely, to be honest. The end game, assuming you will be a good student and whatnot, is going to be the same regardless of which school you attend, I just think SGU makes the path slightly easier. We have a ton of affiliations for our clinical rotations, which makes it a lot easier to work in selectives you want, as there are more options available to you. I also agree with him that being an SGU grad vs. and MUA grad isn't going to make much of a difference (if any) during residency match, it just once again becomes a situation of making it a little easier. The large number of clinical affiliations makes it a lot easier to get diverse and positive LORs. Yes, SGU is accepting more students than they have before, and as a student it is almost certainly to make money by weeding out the ones that shouldn't have been accepted in the first place, but it doesn't change the fact that SGU is actually a great school. Assuming you belong in medical school (which I'm assuming you do), SGU has a lot to offer you and will do a great job at preparing you for your future career. In the end, go where you feel the most comfortable and where you think will benefit you the most.

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    I did a couple 4th year rotations with MUA students and while they are very smart and qualified, they definitely do not have the resources of SGU. SGU has more choices and spots in terms of rotations, and in hospitals with better reputations. Plus SGU helps us more when it comes to scheduling. For example, they schedule ALL our 3rd year core clerkships for us. Some of my MUA friends would have to schedule cores themselves and they couldn't get them all consecutively. So they would do a rotation here, have a few weeks off, then another rotation. As a result just takes so much longer to get through the clinical years! I mean maybe it's changed in the last couple years, but it just seemed really frustrating for the MUA students.

    And I think the other benefit of SGU is that since it's been around since the 1970s there's a high chance that hospital faculty will have dealt with an SGU grad in some capacity before. In fact a few places I interviewed at had SGU alums as faculty! MUA is just not as well known as SGU, unfortunately. I'm a psych resident at a very strong academic medical center and I think the only Carib schools we have taken residents from are SGU, Ross, and AUC - none of the smaller Carib schools.

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    Thank you all for your reply! Do you have any insight on the KBT Scholars program and it's benefits over the normal MD program in Grenada?

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    I wouldn't do it. KBT students can't do rotations or practice residency in New Jersey because of some weird NJ board of medicine law that says medical students need to do their basic sciences in 1 place. That is a huge blow to us because the majority of students match in the NJ/NY area (because that's where most people do rotations in that area, and those hospitals have become familiar with SGU). You would be cutting yourself off from a lot of programs that normally look favorably upon SGU students. And even if you didn't want to match in NJ, it will also be hard to schedule any elective rotations in 4th year if you are barred from a state that has a huuuuge chunk of rotation sites. I did all of my basic sciences in GND and I had a hard time setting up rotations between NJ and NY, can't imagine how difficult it would have been if I only had NY to look at.
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