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    Step III timing , SGU and h1b

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    Just wondering for canadians/internationals if its more advantageous to enter in january 05 as opposed to aug 04 b/c if you entered janary 05 you'd be done ~ decmber 08 and enter residency july 09 - in the meantime you could study for step III for your h1b. 6 mo to wait seems like a better gap than a whole year. when do internationals ie non americans take their step III so that they can get their h1b before residency?

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    actually i think i just answered my own question. I just got off the phone with an sgu 03 grad who is doing his residency in ny. he said to start in the jan class and then that leaves the 6 mo to get step iii and apply for the h1b. he also said not to worry about getting an h1b - he got his with a lawyer and $1500US in two weeks. he's doing IM and his boards were decent 97/88 and grades were A/B. he also mentioned that currently canada is looking into recognizing step I/II for licensing just b/c of the huge doctor shortage in can right now - so j-1 is possible to. the reason why j1 is so hyped and problematic is b/c alot of these ppl applying are from india/pakistan/etc. it would be tough to head back there. to put it bluntly canada isn't a bad place to head back so it isn't as much of a problem for us canucks. i ve talked to 3 current cdn grads right now and theyve all told me that the visa isn't an issue - you just have to do well on step 1/II (85+) and get those A/B grades. and they all mentioned that you can't study 24/7 down there b/c a) it would suck b) you won't do as well as if you socialized and had a life outside of the books. the guy i talked to acutally started in aug but decelled - i.e he stayed for an extra semester and took only three courses a term. the stigma of decelling is there but it doesn't go on a permanent transcript or anything like that. you get more time to study but more imporantly you get time to explore grenada, hang out with your classmates and go to the islands - this is pretty key. alot of ppl regret not doing more down there. this is another recurring theme with the ppl ive talked to. apologies for the randomness of these thoughts - just recollecting what this grad told me

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    Thank you for the informative post vtrain. That is great for us Canadians!
    My question is: Are there a lot of good options for primary care (FP, IM etc.) for H1-B or is it pretty slim pickin. It was my understanding that a very large percentage of hospitals won't go near the H1-B as it can be a bit of a nightmare.

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    good news

    Quote Originally Posted by KDog
    Thank you for the informative post vtrain. That is great for us Canadians!
    My question is: Are there a lot of good options for primary care (FP, IM etc.) for H1-B or is it pretty slim pickin. It was my understanding that a very large percentage of hospitals won't go near the H1-B as it can be a bit of a nightmare.

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    I think if you're interested in P.C. you don't have to worry about not getting a residency provided you do well on boards (80+) and get those A/**. getting an h1b does limit your options but i don't think it's as bad as everyone makes it out to be - at least that's the concensus ive been getting from talking to cdn grads. there are still plenty of hospitals willing that do h1b. if you're a strong candidate i can't see why they wouldn't sponsor an h1b, especially if it's a mediocre residency that doesn't normally attract the top candidates. from what i've also gathered is that it isn't that big a hassle for the hospital sponsoring because you (or rather your $1500-$3000 flat fee immigration lawyer) does all the foot work - so it isn't that bad. another thing to keep in mind is that you need step III before you can get an h1b which is means you essentially lose 1 year which is why i was thinking the jan term is better for canadians. say you start jan 05 you grad dec 08 and enter the mar 09 match. that gives you time to to study for part III and get all your paperwork for your visa done. if you start aug 04, its virtually impossible to enter the next match ie mar 08, except if you wanted to do j1 - as an aside, i spoke to a cdn grad whos doing EM in cali and he's on a j1 and didn't miss anytime . when asked, he's not the least bit worried about the j1 resident requirement. you could enter aug 04 and enter match mar 09 but i think that's along time to wait - don't you? just a thought. i'm probably gonna enter aug 04 and maybe decel - i'm in no rush and want to experience life and enjoy my time down in grenada

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