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    Help analyze SGU residency vs typical US MD residency

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    Here is SGU

    SGU Residency Postings for 2007

    Here is Texas Tech

    http://www.ttuhsc.edu/som/studentaff..._list_2007.pdf


    I more intereseted in the programs that Texas Tech students matched in vs SGU. Do they tend to be more competitive vs SGU? What about the hard specialties like ortho that Tech students matched in vs SGU? Are the ortho programs that Tech students matched in better than SGU's? Just anything insightful between these two placements would help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phospholipid View Post
    Here is SGU

    SGU Residency Postings for 2007

    Here is Texas Tech

    http://www.ttuhsc.edu/som/studentaff..._list_2007.pdf


    I more intereseted in the programs that Texas Tech students matched in vs SGU. Do they tend to be more competitive vs SGU? What about the hard specialties like ortho that Tech students matched in vs SGU? Are the ortho programs that Tech students matched in better than SGU's? Just anything insightful between these two placements would help.

    then go to texas tech....

    what do you want people here to tell you???

    sgu students are able to get good residencies and even competitive ones, but if you are looking for sgu residencies to be wholesale the same as one particular med school, well you are going to be dissapointed, pure and simple.

    if you can't come down to the caribbean knowing that you have made the right decision and that you will do what YOU can to make yourself the best candidiate for a residency and that you will get a residency in something you will be happy in at a place you will be happy at, then don't come here, period.

    If you think you will somehow be inferior to your counterparts in the US, then don't come here....sgu is not hurting for your patronage...there are probably 4 other applicants that will jump at the chance for your spot- if you don't want it, let someone else hve it.
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    kiss my gluteus maximus rokshana. I asked for some helpful insight on comparing two schools. If you don't have anything useful to comment, please don't post, even if you are a mod. Im not interested in Texas Tech, but just pulled a random US school and just wanted a comparison with SGU, plain and simple. Does SGU place more in community hospitals? vs a US school more in university hospitals? Are the programs more competitive. I do not know the rankings of any of the programs, don't know which internal medicine program is more competitive than others.. etc. At first glance, it doesn't mean anything to me, since I don't know which programs are competitive and which is not. I just want to have a rough gauge of how big of a disadvantage coming from SGU is, that's all. I was hoping somebody that knows more about residency placement in their fourth year to help me analyze it. I would think a SGU student in their fourth year would be a little more helpful to students, but I guess rokshana has a chip on his/her shoulder. Sorry to piss you off, actually im not.
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    As a general assumption, university affiliated programs for most residencies are usually more competitive. Some exceptions are Cleveland Clinic, Cook County, and Mayo residencies, some of which are very sought after even though they are "community based" programs.

    NRMP lists ortho as a highly competitive field, so by default, most if not all of their programs are also going to be competitive. Therefore, I am not sure there is really a method to compare if TT gets "better" ones.

    If you are interested in ortho or any other "highly competitive" residency, then you will be at a disadvantage coming from SGU vs TT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phospholipid View Post
    kiss my azzz and go away rokshana. I asked for some helpful insight on comparing two schools. If you don't have anything useful to comment, please don't post, even if you are a mod. Im not interested in Texas Tech, but just pulled a random US school and just wanted a comparison with SGU, plain and simple.
    I do not know the rankings of any of the programs, don't know which internal medicine program is more competitive than others.. etc. I don't have that information since I'm just an entering student. I was hoping somebody that knows more about residency placement in their fourth year to help me analyze it. I would think a SGU student in their fourth year would be a little more helpful to students, but I guess rokshana has a chip on his/her shoulder. Sorry to piss you off, actually im not.
    dude, your posts are always so negative towards sgu...why are you even thinking about this place if you think the residencies we get are so much worse than US med schools or DO med schools? If you come down here with THAT thought in your head you will never be happy down on the island, you won't be happy in clinicals, and you won;t be happy with the residency program...and you will ALWAYS think of yourself as something LESS...you really won't be, you it is what you will think.

    Hands downs going to a US MD school is the best option-- there isn't anyone here that won't tell you that..but guess what ---NO ONE here has that option--if you do, then take it, but i would suspect that its not so comparing any random's US school's list is pointless- we don't have that option- harsh but true.

    Comparing SGU's list to say AUC or Ross's makes sense-and commenting on that would be a worthwhile exercise (no real differences really...if you work hard at and do well, you will get a good spot). Comparing SGU's list to any US school is mental masturbation at best- it might make you feel better, but serves no purpose.

    you don't know the rankings of any of the programs? well then do research it yourself- go look at the US News and World report for some ideas, but what makes a good program is very subjective- what do you WANT out of a program- fellowship? research? autonomy?

    how about you work on getting IN to med school 1st and getting great Step scores? You get 99s on both your steps and you will be able to get the best IM programs you can get coming out of SGU- break 260 on those steps and you'll be amazed at some of the barriers that will break.

    and you best edit your post before a mod does come an give you an infraction since it is a bit flaming.....
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    I do notice that Texans like to stay in TX. Lots of TX residencies.

    I think it is comparing apples to oranges though. In TT, you can see surgery residencies are prelim and categorical, ortho, rad, oto, lots of university programs - though mostly local in TX. For SGU, a couple ortho, rad, throughout the years but not consistently each year, especially since TT has around 100 graduates and we have >300 each year and still will not bring home those numbers. Sad but true.
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    Kongaku
    Thanks for your reply. At this point, i'm not interested in any of those super competitive field, but am pretty set on cardiology. Can you comment on the students that matched in internal medicine on average with TT and SGU? On average, is it obvious from the list that Tech has more students on more well known programs (which means higher chance of getting fellowship) than SGU?

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    i have to take the side of rok here

    its really hard to compared to SGU residency placements to a US schools.
    no doubt US schools will be better. period. comparisons is futile. it is a different story if sgu was compared to auc or ross or other off shore med school.

    i think bottom like, any way you look at it, TT will GENERALLY have better placements than SGU, whether it be academic/university affiliated placements or whatever.

    but that isnt saying that sgu grad wont get into ortho or other competitive residency. however if you are set on doing a residency in highly regarded university affliated program, you are better off with TT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phospholipid View Post
    Kongaku
    Thanks for your reply. At this point, i'm not interested in any of those super competitive field, but am pretty set on cardiology. Can you comment on the students that matched in internal medicine on average with TT and SGU? On average, is it obvious from the list that Tech has more students on more well known programs (which means higher chance of getting fellowship) than SGU?
    As another soon-to-be med student, I am also curious here as well-- and have a question for other current med students on this topic. My understanding is that to do a fellowship in cardiology, one would have to do IM first. In this case, when one is applying for fellowship, does it still matter which school someone came from? Or does it simply matter on their performance in their IM residency?

    For instance, let's say someone went to school at SGU, and another student went to TT (or any other school) and they both ended up at doing their residency at the same medical center afterwards in the US. If they were to both apply for a cardiology fellowship, would they be judged on their performance during residency? Or would the TT student still have an advantage even after residency, simply for having gone to a US school (even though the residency was at the same place)?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rkaz View Post
    As another soon-to-be med student, I am also curious here as well-- and have a question for other current med students on this topic. My understanding is that to do a fellowship in cardiology, one would have to do IM first. In this case, when one is applying for fellowship, does it still matter which school someone came from? Or does it simply matter on their performance in their IM residency?

    For instance, let's say someone went to school at SGU, and another student went to TT (or any other school) and they both ended up at doing their residency at the same medical center afterwards in the US. If they were to both apply for a cardiology fellowship, would they be judged on their performance during residency? Or would the TT student still have an advantage even after residency, simply for having gone to a US school (even though the residency was at the same place)?
    fellowship, what matters more is your IM residency. med school, usmle scores and other stuff is less of importance.

    its similar applying to med school, where you went to HS and your HS gpa doesnt really matter that much

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