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    We should be taken over by a LCME school like the one on Qatar

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    As I take a break from hammering away the books. I was wondering how possible or if anyone might know how this works... so I was reading online that Cornell Med is the first US med school to have a a Degree stating Cornell I mean I'm sorry Weill Cornell Med on it to a school in Qatar, a foreign school. That is they took over the school and give the graduates there a degree which is recognize by the LCME because it is a Cornell Degree.. Can SGU do the same? If so why hasnt it? and why the hell they picked a foreign school there.. why not us.. arent we studly enough, have we not proven our self with our stats? Take a look and see what I mean

    http://www.med.cornell.edu/publicati...Fact_Sheet.pdf

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    They get a US degree but they are still considered IMGs and have to participate as IMGs for matching. From the school's FAQs

    "Anyone who graduates from a medical school whose location is outside of the geographic boundaries of the United States or Canada is considered an International Medical Graduate (IMG). Cornell is the first American university to step outside of these geographic limits by establishing a medical program and by awarding its MD degree. Thus WCMC-Q students will be the only IMGs with US medical degrees. "

    "Yes. WCMC-Q Medical Program graduates may enter ERAS and the National Residency Match Program (NRMP) as International Medical Graduates (IMGs). Our first graduates will enter this process in 2008. Cornell University is confident that graduates of WCMC-Q will compete favorably for places with graduates of medical schools located within the United States. "

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    aint gonna happen. and you also dont understand- the quatar students are not seen as "cornell students". its a domicile school for locales. Americans dont go there for a "cornell" degree.

    Qatar is not for us students who failed to get in the uS. sgu is. And is trying to extend itself as an international university. I dont expect sgu to be a reaonable first choice for anyone outside of the caribbean or certain other nations any time soon. but i think they hope in the decades to come in might happen.


    anyway apples and oranges. aint gonna happen and you wont be seen by program directors as a "cornell grad" (ie as if you went to cornell on east 69th street) if you do go to qatar.

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    As I take a break from hammering away the books. I was wondering how possible or if anyone might know how this works... so I was reading online that Cornell Med is the first US med school to have a a Degree stating Cornell I mean I'm sorry Weill Cornell Med on it to a school in Qatar, a foreign school. That is they took over the school and give the graduates there a degree which is recognize by the LCME because it is a Cornell Degree.. Can SGU do the same? If so why hasnt it? and why the hell they picked a foreign school there.. why not us.. arent we studly enough, have we not proven our self with our stats? Take a look and see what I mean

    http://www.med.cornell.edu/publicati...Fact_Sheet.pdf
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    Quote Originally Posted by messy View Post
    As I take a break from hammering away the books. I was wondering how possible or if anyone might know how this works... so I was reading online that Cornell Med is the first US med school to have a a Degree stating Cornell I mean I'm sorry Weill Cornell Med on it to a school in Qatar, a foreign school. That is they took over the school and give the graduates there a degree which is recognize by the LCME because it is a Cornell Degree.. Can SGU do the same? If so why hasnt it? and why the hell they picked a foreign school there.. why not us.. arent we studly enough, have we not proven our self with our stats? Take a look and see what I mean

    http://www.med.cornell.edu/publicati...Fact_Sheet.pdf

    this is old news...there was a thread on this about 2 yrs ago. Now Duke has a school in Singapore and Cleveland Clinic will be building one in UAE to be finished in a few years.

    As to why? well, there is money there....
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    It's so funny that I came across this post. I recently heard a rumor that Cornell wanted to start a veterinary school outside of the United States. I don't believe this rumor at all, but that would be interesting. That would eliminate any school funding issues for sure!

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    does anyone of people that went there? I checked the online list of approved medical schools on the Cali site and it doesn't have it listed. So does this mean they like GSP can not practice in Cali.. Also i think that that with all this activity going on that LCME will create a subdivision of an approval body that accredits programs such as these.. but than I think they would have to approve SGU and even maybe the SGU GSP program. And if not than maybe SGU should consider merging with a big shot like Albert Einstein school of medicine.. I wouldn't mind my diploma saying that..And another thing.. LCME considers IMG as anyone who graduates from a medical school outside the US or Canada.. Yet the LCME is a US governing body... So how come they are okay with approving Canadian schools and not Mexican? Why is Canada okay and Mexico not? They should than just stick to US only...
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    Quote Originally Posted by messy View Post
    does anyone of people that went there? I checked the online list of approved medical schools on the Cali site and it doesn't have it listed. So does this mean they like GSP can not practice in Cali.. Also i think that that with all this activity going on that LCME will create a subdivision of an approval body that accredits programs such as these.. but than I think they would have to approve SGU and even maybe the SGU GSP program. And if not than maybe SGU should consider merging with a big shot like Albert Einstein school of medicine.. I wouldn't mind my diploma saying that..And another thing.. LCME considers IMG as anyone who graduates from a medical school outside the US or Canada.. Yet the LCME is a US governing body... So how come they are okay with approving Canadian schools and not Mexican? Why is Canada okay and Mexico not? They should than just stick to US only...

    believe it or not, this has come up a number of times... for more detailed info, do a search...

    but basically Canada DOES have its own governing body, but it works in conjunction with the LCME.

    And as why? while not very PC, Canada is looked upon differently than Mexico...

    you can check out the LCME website and they give you all the details...
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    their charter is for US only...do a google and you will see that they have dealt with that issue.

    In many things, the US and Canada have equivalency but Mexico lacks infrastructure at this time on medical recognition,etc. Problem is at the govt level.....maybe with time it will truly become a NAFTA thing.

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    does anyone of people that went there? I checked the online list of approved medical schools on the Cali site and it doesn't have it listed. So does this mean they like GSP can not practice in Cali.. Also i think that that with all this activity going on that LCME will create a subdivision of an approval body that accredits programs such as these.. but than I think they would have to approve SGU and even maybe the SGU GSP program. And if not than maybe SGU should consider merging with a big shot like Albert Einstein school of medicine.. I wouldn't mind my diploma saying that..And another thing.. LCME considers IMG as anyone who graduates from a medical school outside the US or Canada.. Yet the LCME is a US governing body... So how come they are okay with approving Canadian schools and not Mexican? Why is Canada okay and Mexico not? They should than just stick to US only...
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    qatar matchlist

    Thought of posting it here as well. Nice matchlist for being the first graduating class.

    qatar-med.cornell.edu/mediaNews/pressReleases/2008/match_list2008Class.pdf

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    k if you really think canada = mexico... then you need to ask your SGU canadian classmates what canada is all about ... we have more than igloos and beer
    lol...they're called world class institutions... (not like qatar med... but like Mcgill, uni of toronto, etc etc..)
    canadian standards for medicine are awfully strict... if ur an img... chances of you ever practising there... are lim x-->0 where x is the chance of an IMG practising in canada...
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