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    Time outside of class to study

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    How much of a typical weekday is consumed by actual class-time?

    Are you in class from about 8-4 everyday, or does it vary by semester?

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    Varies e.g.

    2nd term = 3-4 hours of lecture/day + one or two 1.5 hour labs/tutorials every week (some weeks there are no tutorials)

    4th term = 3-4 hours of lecture/day + 2 hours of lab pretty much every day. We haven't started Advanced Clinical Skills yet so not sure how often those extra labs will. They're listed pretty much every day starting in April but not sure if we attend every day or just 1x/week.

    1st term = 4 hours nearly every day + 3 hours Anatomy 1x/week and 2 hours Histo 1x/week plus lots of time in Anat lab playing catch-up and reviewing.

    But you'll often feel like there's not enough time to study outside of class. Material is overwhelming in volume sometimes so you need to make your study time be effective and count.

    2nd term is the most misleading as it appears you have way more time to study (compared with first) but the material also requires more time to learn.

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    What!? We had 2hrs Histo Lab 2x/wk, and 3hrs Anat lab 2x/wk. They are letting you guys off easy. Throw in Clinical Skills, etc, and you have class 9-5 for four out of five days a week.

    Oh and ACS lab is 2x/week.

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    First term isn't really that bad. What will kill you is slacking off and then trying to catch up. Like the tortoise and the hare, if you keep going along working each day it is ok. Classes in first term usually run from 1-5 M-F...you get out early sometimes. Only Anatomy and Histo have labs. Histo is once a week for a few hours in the morning and Anatomy is usually once a week for a few hours. Occasionally you get a living anatomy or "dry" lab session...but you really end up having free time. The biggest thing to master is time management. Be disciplined and diligent and you can take time to go to a party or watch a good game. Hope that helps.

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    Wait did we? I was in your class before I took LOA after the hurricane. Funny, I only seem to remember lab 1x/week for each class. Maybe I'm blocking out bad memories or was it just tougher cause you guys were in Long Island?

    There was Living Antomy 5x later in the term though.

    Clinical skills is only every now and then so not every week either. Not in 1st and 2nd term anyway. I think we had something like 8 or 9 sessions (and not many people go to those lectures). Plus you have an hour for lunch. *grin*

    Thanks for the info on ACS. I've been wondering for a while.

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    Actually I started first term in Jan 04, and took an LOA after the hurricane, so I never was in LI, (and I am thankful for that), and I think I still would have been a class ahead of you. As far as I remember we had histo twice a week, and we had to do "table presentations," i.e. every other session half of the table had to present that lab's slides to the other half, on top of the CTSI's...

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    Ah okay. Was just assuming you were in the Aug '04 class like I was since you're in St. Vincent now.

    Things do change from term to term. I remember hearing that Anatomy, a couple of terms ago, had lab quizzes every week as well (possibly as recently as the term you started in). We only had one every third week or so. Apparently they did away with that because while they had great results for Anat, people were putting too much time into it and neglecting other classes somewhat. Or that could just be another SGU rumour.

    We also didn't have to present anything for Histo. The tutors did it all.

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    Anyway, time to batten down the hatches. Mad studying to do. My first concept map is taking forever!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I think it's a great way to learn (better than the labs in my opinion) but I really don't think this way. I wrote everything I wanted to touch on down before starting it, yet it's somehow coming out too "linear" on paper and having to draw associations from one side to the other is getting really messy. I also think I might be putting in too much info and need to get the hang of this.

    To make things even worse, I'm doing a somewhat easy topic (in that it seems to be fairly "self-contained") like edema and having a really tough time.

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    Yup, we had "table quizzes" every week. We were spending an in-ordinate amount of time in the wet lab, as it was a group grade, and being uber-competitive med-students, we drilled our group-mates until the wee hours of the morning. People were putting too much time into Anatomy -- though I don't think the distribution was that positively skewed. There were ~90 A's, and 30 people still failed... Dr. B still took the opportunity to give low marks on the table quizzes and make girls cry with his questions and responses. Maybe it was the fact that the passing grade in Biochem was 54% where this neglect of other classes came from.

    As for the concept maps, I used this: http://cmap.ihmc.us/ I'd email you an example or two (I did edema as well), but my HDD crashed and I lost them. I really like using the software, because you can re-arrange things easily, rather than being stuck with what you've written down on paper.

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    Thanks for the link. I'll check it out sometimes this week and see if it's better than the software I'm using right now.

    I prefer to use software for the reason you stated as well. I can move things around, rearrange my arrows around items, etc. I just drafted the topics I want to cover on paper first so I had a starting point and rough idea.

    Thanks for the offer but I'd probably use it as a template a bit too much in any case and it'd probably be a better learning experience for me to try and hash this out on my own even though it's taking forever.

    Like I said in another thread, I think Dr. B. likes to show off his knowledge rather than teach. I don't like his "tough love" approach which is what I guess it could be.

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    concept map

    i used to spend 1/2 an hour in class doing my concept map. i felt for me it was a waste of time. i don't learn like that. it actually confused me more but everyone is different of course. i would simply use my BRS... open any chapter we had done and there were the main points so i didn't really have to think much lol. i really enjoyed path but i think the concept maps are just another way to keep us busy.

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