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    Piece of advice if you're applying to UNIC-SGUL Cyprus

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    TO ANYONE PLANNING TO APPLY TO UNIC-SGUL:


    I am a third year medical student at this school, and the advice that I will be giving you now is the opinion of almost all students enrolled in this program. The administration will not tell you this, they might disagree with what I'm saying, But this is my objective observation and all I'm doing is stating facts.


    ONLY consider applying to this program if you fall under any of these categories:


    1- UK citizen planning on practicing medicine in UK/Europe.
    2- EU citizen planning on practicing medicine in UK/Europe. (as long as Brexit does not change the right to work in the UK for EU/EEA students)
    3- Canadian citizen planning on going back to Canada, the matching process in Canada is tough, so don't come to this program if that was your only career option.
    4- American citizen who is able to study well for the USMLEs and get high scores to match in a residency program.
    5- Any citizen planning on marrying a UK citizen or EU citizen living in the UK.


    Malta is not an option anymore. The maltese medical council requires a medical degree of at least 5 years (European style) to deem you eligible to apply.
    Ireland is almost impossible, if you're EU you have high chances, if not I would say your chances are 10%, and that's after being placed on the waiting list.


    The UNIC-SGUL degree is only recognized in North America and Europe, for now. So if you're from an african or middle eastern country you need to be careful if you are planning on going back there for residency.
    Other than that if you are super smart and able to score very high on your steps, you can come and try to match in the states. But that would be your only option.


    Anyway, best of luck for everyone.
    I personally regret coming to this program, I thought the UK was an option to everyone including Canadians and Australians.
    The biggest problem is the non-existent transparency of the faculty and administration members. Make sure you know all the facts before coming, and have everything promised to you in writing and save it in case "something goes wrong" later on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Remi22184 View Post
    Make sure you know all the facts before coming, and have everything promised to you in writing and save it in case "something goes wrong" later on.
    I'm incredibly skeptical of why having something in writing changes anything. It's physical, and therefor psychologically more reassuring but is it binding? If SGUL UNIC reneges on the "contract," which jurisdiction do you sue in? How do you get back your losses?

    Your word is your bond. The fact that they feel the need to offer terms in writing speaks to how deeply they've damaged the trust of those that put them in charge of their education. Offering something in writing seems like just another ploy to ease new students' concerns and then rope them in until it's too late to reasonably abandon their course of action.

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    Hi Remi22184,

    We agree that the students you describe would have a smooth path to licensure. It is not accurate to say, however, that our degree is only recognised in North America and Europe:

    - Lebanese students are able to obtain residency positions at home and subsequently take the Colloquium exam.

    - Israeli students are able to obtain internships as a precursor to licensure.

    - There are also routes to registration for many other countries. For current students, these are listed on Moodle and the Careers Office is always available to discuss current options. Those interested in our school should ask their admissions advisor for details.

    The Irish internship process is indeed competitive, but we currently have students both in that programme and going through the application process.

    As for Australians, Canadians and others who until this year had no issues with getting Tier 5 visas to enter the F1 programme in the UK, the Medical School, SGUL and the UK Foundation Programme Office were all surprised at the inexplicable change of policy by the Home Office. We are working jointly to resolve the issue over UK visas with the Home Office. In addition, we are looking at alternatives to allow eligible non-UK/EU students an opportunity to take up surplus F1 slots at the end of the cycle, or to undertake the equivalent of F1 training abroad. Please note, too, that Ireland offers a way for Australians/New Zealanders to get their Certificate of Experience as the Irish internship is also accepted as entry to the Australian Competent pathway.

    Again, we strongly encourage you and any of your schoolmates who have concerns about their ability to practice medicine in a specific country, or have further questions on the above, to get in touch with Sue Chrysostomou, our careers advisor, to discuss your individual situation. Prospective students with such questions should contact their admissions advisor.

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    The broader point of all this chaos is that if you are going to study medicine abroad, you have to expect to train in the country you are from.

    Australians, Canadians, and New Zealanders, I'm sorry, but your countries produce one medical graduate for nearly every one of their post graduate training posts. That's the reality. The purpose is to control the number of doctors and their educational background. It's not wise to expect another country to fund your post graduate education just so that you can go back home. I'm sorry that you were misled to believe that this school guaranteed you an opportunity to be a practicing physician.

    If you are not from the US and want to to train in the US after graduation, then you have a 40-50% chance of matching into an uncompetitive specialty if you do everything correctly. This school however is not ideal for students wanting to train in the US for reasons too numerous to mention.

    Yes, some of our graduates will be successful, but there are too few of us to make generalizations about your future prospects here. Without generalizations a person can't make plans. Without a solid exit plan, spending 100,000+ euros on an education seems like poor judgment.

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    We have seen some posts on this forum that make various assertions about student outcomes from our medical programme. Let us simply state the facts.

    90 graduates from our first two cohorts:

    58 in UK (F1 and F2)

    8 in Malta F1

    6 in US residencies

    3 in Canadian residencies

    2 in Lebanese residencies

    3 in Israeli internship

    1 in Irish internship

    4 in research or graduate programmes in the US, UK and Lebanon

    5 deferred their medical training to 2017

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    Right, so in two years 6 people have matched into the US. While students were reliant on the U.K. and Malta for 2/3s of their positions. As discussed previously and elsewhere, the demographics of the first two cohorts were very different from this current fourth year and following years. This was before the school started recruiting and admitting large amounts of US and Canadian students who do not have European passports and this was before any Australians were up to graduate. There was one New Zealander in the class above us and I'm pretty sure he had a hard time of getting a spot.

    If you are from an English speaking country that isn't in the U.K., these numbers don't mean much.

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    For those students who successfully matched into either the US or Canada upon completion of the program - how did you/they manage to achieve this despite the program's significant barriers? Aside from avoiding SGUL-Nicosia entirely, is there any advice that can be given on this front? How did you/they manage to land elective rotations in these countries despite the conflicting timing of the curriculum? Any feedback would be appreciated.

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