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    St. Georges University of London or University of Nicosia Medical School?

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    Please clarify...
    What's the difference between the two? Why does the University of Nicosia Medical School want St. Georges University of London at their medical school?

    Thank you.

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    Thank you for the inquiry. SGUL partnered with the Univ of Nicosia to establish the first medical school offered in Cyprus. This allow ed students admission to the medical school who would not have access to admission in London (non-UK/EU citizens).

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    The relationship between the two schools is not clear. To further add to the confusion, upon graduation your transcripts will be issued by the University of Nicosia Medical School and your Diploma will be issued by St. George’s University of London. Also, you pay tuition to UNic, not to SGUL. There is no clear understanding of who actually owns the school either. Also note that the University of Nicosia Medical School is not accredited. Overall, this seems like a business opportunity that SGUL is willing to take a risk on and exploit. The GMC is trying to crack down on these schools. Google "BMA – Overseas campuses will not offer UK qualifications". As you know, most med schools are not a charitable bunch so Tipton's answer may be correct, but not the full picture you may be looking for. Hope that helps.

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    From a first year student at SGUL-UNic

    A panel of Brits from the GMC comes to the UNic campus each year for its audit, which it does for all academic institutions awarding British medical degrees. It was funny for us students to watch how our UNic staff were visibly nervous about the visit of these GMC Officials and scrambling to get things in order.

    A part of their visit included seminars with us students which SGUL-UNic staff are not allowed to attend, listen in on, or even ask us about.
    We spent two hours answering the GMC's questions about our experiences here and most of the responses took the form of angry North American students complaining about what they feel was misrepresentation and misleading information. The GMC's visit, however, was about quality assurance and so they wanted to know about the academic and professional calibre of our instructors, the command of English language by our instructors and patients that we are made to work with, and other issues which relate to ensuring that the SGUL-UNic cohort is at no disadvantage as compared to the SGUL cohort.

    The students' anger, however, prevented adequate information-exchange with the GMC because all the dodgy dealings being complained about were all administrational and bureaucratic in nature and thus outside of the realm of the GMC's intended purpose.

    We have exams in just 10 days' time and things are too hectic with all that, but bottom line is: I don't think that the GMC would bother visiting this campus if the SGUL-UNic degree really isn't accredited. Yes, the issues of transcript labelling and 3rd year hospital placements are still very much outstanding and upsetting. But with the onslaught of exams, I don't have time to worry about all that right now.

    I just wanted to warn prospective students who are either disabled, or identify as being LGBT that things will be unfairly difficult for you here and the administrational staff of UNic are largely unqualified to handle and thus insensitive to these student groups.



    Quote Originally Posted by beinformed View Post
    The relationship between the two schools is not clear. To further add to the confusion, upon graduation your transcripts will be issued by the University of Nicosia Medical School and your Diploma will be issued by St. George’s University of London. Also, you pay tuition to UNic, not to SGUL. There is no clear understanding of who actually owns the school either. Also note that the University of Nicosia Medical School is not accredited. Overall, this seems like a business opportunity that SGUL is willing to take a risk on and exploit. The GMC is trying to crack down on these schools. Google "BMA – Overseas campuses will not offer UK qualifications". As you know, most med schools are not a charitable bunch so Tipton's answer may be correct, but not the full picture you may be looking for. Hope that helps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beinformed View Post
    The relationship between the two schools is not clear. To further add to the confusion, upon graduation your transcripts will be issued by the University of Nicosia Medical School and your Diploma will be issued by St. George’s University of London. Also, you pay tuition to UNic, not to SGUL. There is no clear understanding of who actually owns the school either. Also note that the University of Nicosia Medical School is not accredited. Overall, this seems like a business opportunity that SGUL is willing to take a risk on and exploit. The GMC is trying to crack down on these schools. Google "BMA – Overseas campuses will not offer UK qualifications". As you know, most med schools are not a charitable bunch so Tipton's answer may be correct, but not the full picture you may be looking for. Hope that helps.
    The diploma and transcript are issued by St George's Hospital Medical School, a constituent College of the University of London. The academic transcript has been prepared based on the United Kingdom Quality Assurance Agency’s requirements and the University of Nicosia is only referenced in the transcript, under a section entitled “Location of study” which also lists the clinical sites where the student has studied in their last 2 years (US, Israel or Cyprus). The program delivered in Cyprus is the same as the programme delivered in London and shares the same recognition as a UK Primary Medical Qualification. The UK GMC is quality assuring the SGUL program in Nicosia and as its reports indicate, our program is progressing as expected (see GMC | Reports and action plans by medical school, college or deanery/LETB).

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