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    Busted..St Chris.....

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    Schools Not Recognized by the State Board of Medicine:

    After review of the curriculums, the curriculum of the following schools does not meet the requirements of the Rules and Regulations. Medical education from these schools will not be accepted for licensure.

    Grace School of Medicine
    Grace University
    Cades Bay, Nevis (offices in Boca Raton, FL)

    St. Christopher's College of Medicine
    Dakar, Senegal (offices in Naples, FL)

    University Health Sciences Antigua
    St. John's Antigua, West Indies

    once again, wow....check this site out.... www.altoonafp.org/img.htm

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    Yes sure Dr. F of MUA

    it was a dispute over clinicals and the length of time spent in a FP clinical. I spoke at length with admin and that particular hospital and they were reviewing new documentation as of this past summer.

    How is MUA going? Curious as to how it must be going since you seem to have an aweful lot of time on your hands participating on a web board. Enrollment must be down.

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    IknowitALl, thanks for the link. Interesting that Altoona says that it is the state board that does not recognize St. Chris.


    (I guess you are going to receive more nasty pm's for posting this, eh?)

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    st. chris

    well, if PA won't allow them, apparently Idaho won't either


    052. LICENSURE BY WRITTEN EXAMINATION FOR GRADUATES OF MEDICAL
    SCHOOLS LOCATED OUTSIDE OF THE UNITED STATES AND CANADA.

    01. Foreign Graduate. In addition to meeting the
    requirements of Section 051, graduates of medical schools located
    outside of the United States and Canada must submit to the Board:
    (3-19-99)

    a. An original certificate from the Educational Commission
    for Foreign Medical School Graduates or must submit documentation that
    the applicant has passed the examination either administered or
    recognized by the Educational Commission for Foreign Medical School
    Graduates; and IDAPA 22.01.01. (7-1-93)

    b. Evidence directly from the foreign medical school which
    establishes to the satisfaction of the Board that the foreign medical
    school meets the standards for medical educational facilities set forth
    in Subsection 052.02; and (3-19-99)

    c. An Affidavit from the foreign medical school that to its
    knowledge no state of the United States has refused to license its
    graduates on the grounds that the school fails to meet reasonable
    standards for medical education facilities. (7-1-93)

    d. A complete transcript from the medical school showing
    the courses taken and grades received including an English translation
    of the documents provided. (5-3-03)

    02. Requirements. A foreign medical school must meet and
    comply with the following requirements: (7-1-93)

    a. The degree issued must be comparable to the degrees
    issued by medical schools located within the United States or Canada.
    (7-1-93)

    b. If the foreign medical school issued its first M.D.
    degrees after 1975, the school must provide a site visit or documented
    evidence of equivalent evaluation efforts acceptable to the Board is
    required. (3-30-01)

    c. If the foreign medical school issued valid degrees prior
    to 1975, the Board, in its discretion may require a site visit.
    (3-30-01)

    d. A site visit of the school, when required, must be
    financed by the school. The visiting team shall consist of at least one
    (1) member of the Board; one (1) consultant, a clinical medical
    educator
    acceptable to the Board; one (1) consultant, a basic science educator
    acceptable to the Board; such administrative support personnel as
    deemed
    necessary. The school will be required to pay consultant fees and
    expenses. (7-1-93)

    e. The Board may waive the site visit requirement if:
    (7-1-93)

    i. Information assembled by a similarly or comparably
    constituted site visit team is available from another state licensing
    board; or (7-1-93)

    ii. In the case of review for renewal of approval. (7-1-93)

    f. All schools approved by the Board will be subject to
    review of approval as deemed necessary by the Board, taking into
    consideration need and feasibility. (7-1-93)

    g. The Board will review all available information in
    considering approval, including investigative reports by other states,
    national and international agencies, and may consider the comparative
    performance of graduates with those of other schools on standard
    examination. (7-1-93)

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    threats

    I am hopeful that the Moderators can have enough class to allow discussion by their students. If they want to threaten people, be sure it is within the guidelines of ValueMd...perhaps you could post the standards that you as moderators are trying to uphold?

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    Idaho

    azsceptic wrote:

    if PA won't allow them, apparently Idaho won't either

    I've spoken in person with people from the Idaho board, and it's all the usual requirements. USMLE, ECFMF etc....of course any State can reserve the right to refuse any applicant, but I was told that if the above requirements were met, that SCCM, should not have any problems. Just reading the regulations is sometimes not sufficient. It's best to call the State and check. In fact the official SC website even recommends doing just that in it's section regarding licensure.

    jdmd

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    Busted..St Chris.....

    Quote Originally Posted by IknowitALl
    Schools Not Recognized by the State Board of Medicine:

    After review of the curriculums, the curriculum of the following schools does not meet the requirements of the Rules and Regulations. Medical education from these schools will not be accepted for licensure.

    Grace School of Medicine
    Grace University
    Cades Bay, Nevis (offices in Boca Raton, FL)

    St. Christopher's College of Medicine
    Dakar, Senegal (offices in Naples, FL)

    University Health Sciences Antigua
    St. John's Antigua, West Indies

    once again, wow....check this site out.... www.altoonafp.org/img.htm

    Hah, hello MATE Try again. This info that you posted up is completely outdated, call Penn yourself and ask. To begin with Grace, lost their charter in 1998 or so, so they are no longer opperating, so imagen how old and outdated it is. Call Penn yourself and see what they tell you. If your gonna go out of your way to put up outdated info, don't even bother. Put up real up-to-date info. You got something to say, let me know?

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    Well, Altoona is the one that said St. Chris is not recognized by the State Board.

    If you are right, then a letter to Altoona to correct their website is in order if their info about St. Chris is not true. We'll just have to wait and see, yes?

    Maybe this is one time that St. Chris can draw on its fund available as stated on Nov 22nd. St. Chris would not want its reputation to suffer now, right?

    Quote Originally Posted by bts4202
    so are you saying SC will help fight legal battles for its students when needed?
    I have been informed that SC has a lot of money set aside for just that purpose. A school that can not get you licensed is useless. SC will fight to make sure you can be licensed almost anywhere you want to be (obviously except impossible ones like Cali, NM, and Kansas). That is the only way the other big schools made it. That is the way that UAG paved the road for all IMG's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dt
    Well, Altoona is the one that said St. Chris is not recognized by the State Board.

    If you are right, then a letter to Altoona to correct their website is in order if their info about St. Chris is not true. We'll just have to wait and see, yes?

    Maybe this is one time that St. Chris can draw on its fund available as stated on Nov 22nd. St. Chris would not want its reputation to suffer now, right?

    Quote Originally Posted by bts4202
    so are you saying SC will help fight legal battles for its students when needed?
    I have been informed that SC has a lot of money set aside for just that purpose. A school that can not get you licensed is useless. SC will fight to make sure you can be licensed almost anywhere you want to be (obviously except impossible ones like Cali, NM, and Kansas). That is the only way the other big schools made it. That is the way that UAG paved the road for all IMG's.

    Dt, that already is being taken care of as we speak. Someone is on the phone with the people at PENN and will let them know about this outdated information. Trust me, it will be up-dated soon.

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    this is what happens when you blaze new trails i guess

    "c. An Affidavit from the foreign medical school that to its
    knowledge no state of the United States has refused to license its
    graduates on the grounds that the school fails to meet reasonable
    standards for medical education facilities. (7-1-93)"

    "b. If the foreign medical school issued its first M.D.
    degrees after 1975, the school must provide a site visit or documented
    evidence of equivalent evaluation efforts acceptable to the Board is
    required. (3-30-01)"

    so does this mean that since california will refuse to grant you a license then idaho will not either? what about any other states no one knows about?dr durts was right you never know until someone tries. this is exactly the type of ** why i didn't go to a small new school and would avoid it if possible. best of luck to you all now i better get back to studying so i don't end up transferring to a small new school....hehe
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