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    I have read a lot of messages on the valueMD forum where people have attempted to associate the type of residency a graduate can obtain with the institution the individual graduated from. Exactly how much does it matter what school you have graduated from when it comes to residency? I read a post which implied that if a student graduated from SGU or Saba they had a better of chance at certain more competitive residency positions. I was always under the impression that the higher your USMLE scores are, the more competitive you are for residency. Is this true? Can and IMG with USMLE score percentages in the mid/high 90's anticipate actually getting an Ortho or Cardiology residency? Does it really matter if the IMG went to SGU or St. Chris. ? Anyone care to comment on the criteria used by different programs for selecting candidates, which they know firsthand from their friends experience, who was an IMG and is in residency now? Also, does anyone care to clarify what state approval has to do with practicing? I don't mean clinicals. I always thought that IMG's could practice in any state as long as they have met the requirements of the credentialing body in a given state. Please correct me if I am wrong. 8)

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    The reason people say that you have a better chance at getting a competitive residency at SGU is because people know them. That is the most important factor in developing your medical career.... knowing people. St. Chris has excellent clinicals at very well respected and prestigous institutions which gives you the opportunity to network. If you are intellegent, get good scores on your boards, and network with the right people... you can do anything you want. However Cardio is a fellowship and gaining that depends on your IM residency and LoR's, it has nothing to do with your medical school. St. Chris has had students match at places like the Rochester Mayo clinic in surgery and one student even got an Opthalmo spot. It is all about you as an idividual. However, it is true that coming from England you will have much less of a stigma associated with you than a carrib student.

    Also, does anyone care to clarify what state approval has to do with practicing?
    Each state has different licensing requirements for IMG's. I suggest looking up the licensing board requirements in any state you wish to practice. St. Chris grads can be licensed in any state other than Cali and NM.
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    What is the best predictor of the type of residency....

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    I have read a lot of messages on the valueMD forum where people have attempted to associate the type of residency a graduate can obtain with the institution the individual graduated from. Exactly how much does it matter what school you have graduated from when it comes to residency? I read a post which implied that if a student graduated from SGU or Saba they had a better of chance at certain more competitive residency positions. I was always under the impression that the higher your USMLE scores are, the more competitive you are for residency. Is this true? Can and IMG with USMLE score percentages in the mid/high 90's anticipate actually getting an Ortho or Cardiology residency? Does it really matter if the IMG went to SGU or St. Chris. ? Anyone care to comment on the criteria used by different programs for selecting candidates, which they know firsthand from their friends experience, who was an IMG and is in residency now? Also, does anyone care to clarify what state approval has to do with practicing? I don't mean clinicals. I always thought that IMG's could practice in any state as long as they have met the requirements of the credentialing body in a given state. Please correct me if I am wrong. 8)
    This sux because I had a loong response and I lost it cuz my comp froze. darn! anyways i will summarize my points. Your USMLE scores matter most and how well a school prepare you for them. It doesn't matter what school you go to as long as you prepare well for the USMLE. You can get residencies in ORtho, opth, cardio, etc but you have to do well in USMLE. Each state has different requirements. Cali is more strict and needs to approve the school in order for kids to do clinicals, licensing, and residency, however, NJ lets you be licensed and obtain a residency but the school needs to get approval in order to do all your clinicals in NJ. hope that helps, and if I am wrong, hopefully someone can correct me
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    Board scores are the biggest factor. St. Chris being in England will not reduce any such stigma, BTS4202. If you look at the ERAS (Electronic Residency Application Service) application it says where your school is chartered. You won't see St. Chris...Luton, England...You will however see St. Chris, Senegal. I don't think the stigma is that large anyway. St. Chris does have some good residency placements....that speaks well of the education the students are recieveing, and the hard work of the students themselves, as they most likely got very good board scores. G
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    What is the best predictor of the type of residency....

    [quote="IDreamOfMedicine"]
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    This sux because I had a loong response and I lost it cuz my comp froze. darn!
    Dude, I feel your pain. I HATE when that happens. That empty feeling that looms.....LOL

    Yeah Newstudent, I would say that the above is pretty right on from what you hear from 'reliable sources'. St. George, its well known which doesn't hurt. I think overall, were all an FMG/IMG. I think the 'cracker jack box' medical school is still going to get first dibs on clinical spot or perhaps a residency......given that the two are comparable perhaps even a bit differrent with the FMG having better scores. And even that I think that can be argued. Probably the most important thing is doing well on the STEP's (rotations and residency) I feel that once you get an interview, the playing field is wide open and even. This is your chance to SHINE.
    You are their, others aren't. That must say something.

    With reagards to cardiology and residency, I know one person who got a residency in cardiology from SABA. Just saying I do know, not that there's only one


    As Dream said, Cali is strict on licensure, a few others in the DC, MA, and I thought NJ can give you issues with certain things (see next paragraph) . Not to knowledgeable though.

    Hey Dream, I heard NJ can give you problems, but you seem to live their and would appear to have a good grasp on it. They aer IMG/FMG friendly ? For both rotations and residency ? A while back I was telling someone of my situtation where I didn't take organic and physics, I thought I recall someone saying that they require you to have that as undergrad work to gain licensure? What do you think ?


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    With reagards to cardiology and residency, I know one person who got a residency in cardiology from SABA. Just saying I do know, not that there's only one
    Cardiology is NOT a residency. You may only enter cardiology after 3 years of internal medicine residency. That training is called a fellowship and acceptance is based on recommendations from your residency, IM board scores, and who you know... NOT where you attended medical school.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bts4202
    With reagards to cardiology and residency, I know one person who got a residency in cardiology from SABA. Just saying I do know, not that there's only one
    Cardiology is NOT a residency.
    You're correct, I mispoke myself. I would hope I know it's an internship by now Heh, I did it again, I MEANT fellowship. Geese, I was going to add to what was said, but I think that's my cue to leave.
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    Geese, I was going to add to what was said, but I think that's my cue to leave.
    You don't have to leave on my behalf and your opinion is by all means welcome here. I didn't mean for my statement to come accross so harsh, I keep forgetting to use smileys. I just wanted to exentuate the points that it is a fellowhip and therefore more dependent on what you do after med school rather than during.
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    That's cool, first beers on you
    Sometimes in life we have to be honest with ourselves in what it is in our best interest, even though it goes against our "want's" or egos.

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