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    New Dean about to resign or have resigned, staff and profs leaving? What's next?

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    Heard from a very reliable source within the school, that the new Dean has either resigned or will resign soon. Also, a whole bunch of profs and staff have either quit, and /or will be quitting soon. There is no anatomy professor, so the students are left to fend for themselves... all this right before the midterms! what's next? It doesn't look good for the future outlook of the school! Anybody at St. Chris, can someone enlighten us with the FACTS ONLY this time?

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    Only what I know:

    1. Anatomy proff got a residency in the US and left to start that, new proff flies over next week. The guy got one well after the match, so it wasn't expected. It does suck, but they are working to resolve it and have hired someone else already.

    2. 3 proffs who are PhD's and also students are moving on to clinicals, so yes, they are leaving per se. That is at the end of the term however, as far as I know..lol. I know someone has been hired and is already at school to replace one of them, i don't know about the others. Thats one of the big problems with having PhD's as proffs and students... they stop teaching.

    3. Don't know about the dean. However i do know he has been unhappy because he has not been allowed complete autonomy. He wants to change the program and make it completely european, the admin and board want the school to remain geared towards the USMLE and US system. They have butt heads a lot.
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    doesn't seem the school is very stable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by archon218
    doesn't seem the school is very stable.


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    Quote Originally Posted by bts4202
    Only what I know:

    1. Anatomy proff got a residency in the US and left to start that, new proff flies over next week. The guy got one well after the match, so it wasn't expected. It does suck, but they are working to resolve it and have hired someone else already.

    2. 3 proffs who are PhD's and also students are moving on to clinicals, so yes, they are leaving per se. That is at the end of the term however, as far as I know..lol. I know someone has been hired and is already at school to replace one of them, i don't know about the others. Thats one of the big problems with having PhD's as proffs and students... they stop teaching.

    3. Don't know about the dean. However i do know he has been unhappy because he has not been allowed complete autonomy. He wants to change the program and make it completely european, the admin and board want the school to remain geared towards the USMLE and US system. They have butt heads a lot.
    Concerning the faculty, I believe this person might be referring to members of the faculty that are MD's. One is departing for maternity leave at the end of June, which is well before the end of the semester, nothing is currently known to the students regarding a replacement. A second MD was just appointed to a position in ENT surgery at one of the local hospitals and is leaving at the end of the semester, but is thinking about teaching part time next semester. Concerning the staff, the administrations office manager recently departed, as well as one of the long time staff members that deals with registration.

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    I Don't know?

    So, in all the Med schools in the US and the world, Deans stay untill retirement, Professors never leave with better offers, Female professors do not become pregnant? What? Let's be fair and look at this intelligently, even if the dean left there will be a new dean like other schools. LOL

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    yes but its a matter of proportion isn't it

    dean leaves, teacher is pregnant ok but throw in administration leaving, registration, leaving, teachers leaving. i had forgotten that sc lets their PhD students teach med school classes but thats another problem entirely.
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    yes but its a matter of proportion isn't it

    Quote Originally Posted by rrod
    dean leaves, teacher is pregnant ok but throw in administration leaving, registration, leaving, teachers leaving. i had forgotten that sc lets their PhD students teach med school classes but thats another problem entirely.
    Hahahahahaha,

    Run for the hills

    PS: just as a point of clarity, once these three proff leave and start clins, there will be no more PhD proffs as part time students anymore.
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    it really isn't funny

    there is a reason why professors and students shouldn't be friends. professors should be on another level as our mentors etc. what prevents my drinking buddy who also happens to be teaching me biochem from taking it easy on me, giving me answers, or a little extra help?

    granted profs at our schools have been known to hang out with students but they are under contractual opbligations relatively long term what does a student care they are out in a year? throw that in to the charter issue now theres two things the boards have never had to deal with.....

    call me crazy but i just think it is unethical no matter what semester they are in and what they are teaching. i am not saying they aren't qualified just that it is a conflict of interest but then again when our schools can save a buck why not? actually its a brilliant scheme the school doesn't have to pay for their airfare to interview them, moving expenses, signing bonuses they teach for free just give em a tuition waiver....man if that isn't a perfect business model i don't know what is (other than insurance that is)
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    1st sem.

    As a first semester student, I must admit that it's been quite a bit frustrating to have to deal with all of these issues.
    We often have no idea which instructor will be instructing us, and on which day (if at all). The one good thing that came out of this is that we had our Lower Limb lecture at King's College (which was EXCELLENT) -too bad this can't be a weekly occurence.

    We've been told that our replacement anatomy instructor arrives on Monday, but we'll have to wait and see if that actually happens.

    As for histo, with one MD leaving on maternity leave and the other MD leaving for ENT, we're not sure who's taking on the remainder of the term...

    I guess our frustrations primarily lie in the amount of disorganization we've experienced so far. I can speak for myself only when I say that I like the school and I like the students, but this disorganization certainly shows that the school has many areas in which to improve.

    Speaking of which, in a previous post **** mentioned the administration would offer us everything we NEEDed (printer, copier, journals and a badet even) if we just got together and asked them. Would you please pm me to tell me exactly how you think the best way we should do this? At one point, we did have a group of our class in the admin building, but it's not like we can just barge in and go see the Dean. Our computer lab operates on wireless as you know, which is down about 90% of time with the exception of two computers. So that's another issue we'd like resolved. So any constructive help in trying to get some of these essential resources would be very much appreciated.

    On a positive note, the upper semester students have been great. They often (always) go out of there way to help us in any way possible, so that's been great to see here.

    I just hope things change significantly for the incoming September class at the least.

    Cheers,

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