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    A Trip Down Memory Lane

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    http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=49138

    MTT's "falsehoods" started in his first semester at SC and only steamrolled from there. I had a good laugh reading this, maybe you will too:

    The college started in Cambridge and eventually moved most of its program to the University of Luton because St Chris became a college within the University of Luton. They also became affiliated with Guy's & King's College, a respected UK medical school. 5th semester students are currently doing coursework in Cambridge but I believe the Cambridge extension program has been discontinued since the college is trying to consolidate all of its coursework at the University of Luton. I believe the school was trying to become affiliated with the University of Cambridge but was unsuccessful because of politics and budget. Yes we have campuses in Luton,England and Senegal, Africa. The English program is geared to attract US, Canadian, European, Middle Eastern, and Asian students. The Senegal program is geared to those people interested in African healthcare. The campuses are independent of one another.

    The pictures are of the University of Luton. You can do a virtual tour on the University of Luton's website (http://www.luton.ac.uk)and compare. The college is not in an upstairs location in a nearby neighborhood. The college is in the University of Luton and all the facilities are just like a public university in the US.

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    St Chris is licensed and accredited by Senegal. The university is a college within the University of Luton, an accredited UK university. The school is recognized by the GMC for limited registration. Students can do clerkships in the UK or the US.
    The school is working hard to get full registration and more clinical sites in the US. Politics seems to be a slow and tedious process.

    In the UK, medical school is different. Medical students in the UK are straight out of high school. They mix some premed coursework with the biomedical sciences. That is why they are six plus years long. St Chris is based on the US model of education. In cooperation with the University of Luton and King's College of London, they're developing a new program for students based on the US model so that students who did premed coursework don't have to go through the six year programs.

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    There are no specific URLs that will mention these exact phrases. St Christopher's College of Medicine is currently within the University of Luton system. We have a full affiliation with the university. All students in the program are registered as University of Luton students and receive all the benefits of the university. The first year program at Kings College of London is an affiliation too but, we are not considered King's College students. We take classes there and are instructed by their faculty. Students interested in doing UK clerkships are allowed to participate in programs in Luton and London. We have an affiliation with Luton-Dunstable Hospital and Guy's Hospital of King's College.

    I wouldn't call it a landlord agreement. The university systems in the UK are different from the US. Universities like Oxford, Cambridge, Luton, etc... are composed of a loose confederation of faculties, colleges, and other bodies. I believe they call this the collegiate system. The idea is "different" colleges, schools, and educational bodies calloborate with one another and exchange ideas. It promotes diversity and intellectual exchange. In the US, universities are composed of colleges and schools within the "same" system and they're not open to foreign schools operating within their systems. The US also has limited exchange programs and is not as proactive like the UK in trying to combat poverty and health issues in developing countries. The UK is open to diversity and to the development of 3rd world countries. By embracing such programs like St Christopher's, the University of Luton is making a name for themselves internationally while being able to contribute to the development of healthcare programs in third world countries (i.e.-Senegal). Also, this university is mainly an undergraduate institution and they have some limited graduate programs. So by establishing programs like St Chris and other graduate programs, they can compete with some of the larger institutions in the UK and abroad.

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    And if you're looking for soothsayer, don't go to marcuswelby. In Nov. 2002, he said:

    "in the next four years this school will be a prolific force in foreign medical education"

    It took a little more than 3 years for the school to self-destruct under the lies of the administration.

    http://forums.studentdoctor.net/show...8&page=2&pp=25

    i am sorry if you feel this way but in the next four years this school will be a prolific force in foreign medical education. there is no place to come down and float to. i am sure no matter what i say now you will say i am attacking you. not one again not one student i spoke to thought this was a english medical school. every single student i spoke to says they were told immediately this school is chartered in senegal. how about auc in stmarten but chartered in monserat.? where are the attacks. this school has bought a beautiful big building in luton which is being designed to be a medical school that will breathtaking. they are working on ny and nj state licensure, and our last class had a 92% passing rate on the usmle. we have hospital access for physical diagnosis and intro to clinical medicine, and in the first semester for histo and physio, a board review class and full medical and dental and prescription benefits, a premedical program and a CLINICAL PROGRAM THAT IS SECOND TO NONE, and 90% of our teachers are MDs. why you are obssesed with the owner i find amusing. this is the kind of constant attacks from people that just blows my mind. and i personally never got mad when someone pointed out a problem or asked a real hard question. if we answer we are callled liars or recruiters anyways. why don't you ask that of stgeorge ross auc. and if we defend ourselves you say attacking. no this school is not perfect i never said it was. and they have made mistakes let me guess your school hasn't? but we have an owner who every single day of this schools existence every single time something is wrong he will not stop until it is fixed. let me say this again because me and so many of my colleagues are eternally eternally grateful for. if there is something wrong something not proper etc he is all over and they try to fix it. but again your raging obssession will be with the owner, a picture a WORD USEDetc we have students crushing the usmle getting residencies and now we will be asked about a picture or the owner or a word being used. what a joke. i have nothing against you or anyone who asks a serious hard fair question. hope we all make it as we are all in it for the same reason. mike and we are not coming down nowhere to float i am sorry if you feel that way as i hope your school never sinks either. mike

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    More of MTT's untruths, he was just getting warmed up for his later semesters:

    The university is not trying to sell itself as Luton. They have gone through full affiliation with the university and are working together to establish a new model of education for international medical schools.

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    That would be auditing a course or taking a community based program. Our medical school does not offer such courses. We take real classes and are registered with the university.

    Again, you're trying to compare the US educational system to the UK. The two things may seem similar but they are different. In the US, foreign schools can not operate in conjunction with US schools because of strict legislation. That is why Ross wasn't able to open their campus in Wyoming. However in the UK, such relationships can exist because it is part of the collegiate system and it promotes intellectual exchange.

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    i wonder if they got free tuition for all their propaganda? sad part is they probably deserve all this for lying to all these poor students

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    those who developed and spread these lies deserve every last bit of what it going on. i hope those few never make it to the table for the ecfmg certification and wind up paying off their loans while working at mcdonalds or declare bankrupcy.

    to those students who were honestly duped into attending SC, i pray for the best and with faith, you will all achieve your ultimate goal of becoming a dr.
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    apology

    Quote Originally Posted by Scott1981
    those who developed and spread these lies deserve every last bit of what it going on. i hope those few never make it to the table for the ecfmg certification and wind up paying off their loans while working at mcdonalds or declare bankrupcy.

    to those students who were honestly duped into attending SC, i pray for the best and with faith, you will all achieve your ultimate goal of becoming a dr.
    Apologizing is good for the soul but I don't expect any of the cheerleaders to apologize because it would be a bit of honesty that would disarm them. As they sit at their kitchen tables today,watching the disaster unfold they still are blaming everyone else around them. Ignorance is an excuse I suppose but the malicious behavior of some goes beyond normal bounds.
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    Yes they do need prayers now than ever before!!!!

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    Consequences

    I do feel that for their sake BTS and MTT need to be held accountable for the things they said, emailed and posted on student forums. If there aren’t consequences they’ll never change and become better people. Can you imagine where they’ll end up in life if they cont. this pattern of behavior?

    But, we need to remember that they were just the messenger. They were instructed in what to say and do by the admin. It was an elaborate preconceived plan aimed at deceiving students. I believe many of the posts made by BTS and MTT were emailed to them from the admin and cut and pasted onto student forum websites.

    No way could two twenty-something students possess that level of word and law manipulation skill. It had to come from the mind of someone more than twice their age who had been in and out of court and back and forth across the ocean for years scamming governments, professionals, private individuals and students. People, including myself, often accused these cheerleaders of being admin and in a way we may have been correct.


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    Quote Originally Posted by azskeptic
    Apologizing is good for the soul but I don't expect any of the cheerleaders to apologize because it would be a bit of honesty that would disarm them. As they sit at their kitchen tables today,watching the disaster unfold they still are blaming everyone else around them. Ignorance is an excuse I suppose but the malicious behavior of some goes beyond normal bounds.
    he browses while being afraid to post. i guess the tail is still tucked between the legs.

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