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    My visit to Spartan Health Sciences University

    Hello,

    My son is a student at American University School of Medicine (AUA). I am a practicing radiologist at UCLA. I graduated from St.George's School of Medicine in the early 80s. Before my husband (retired trauma surgeon who graduated from Spartan), my son, and I decided what school my son would attend we visited the major caribbean schools (SGU, Ross, Spartan, Saba, AUC, AUA, and St.Matthews). We were happy with all the schools we visited. We spent a few days on each island, attending classes, meeting with administration, etc.. The time my husband and I spent at Spartan was very satisfying. My husband graduated many years ago from Spartan Health Sciences University and he was quite satisfied with the improvments the school has made. As I posted in the AUA forum, Spartan was very similar to Saba School of Medicine with respect to facilities, administration, etc.. The majority of what is written on all these forums is hogwash in my opinion! My husband and I visited Spartan for two days and we were happy with the way things were conducted. We met with both deans of the school and a few faculty members and they all were very knowledgable persons who taught their subjects well. What I would like to say is that you can indeed come out of Spartan and succeed. Yes, times are changing but I believe Spartan will be around for many years longer. My husband, a retired trauma surgeon, is considering taking a teaching position at Spartan for part of the year. Spartan has been around for many years, and it will continue to graduate doctors for many more. We considered sending our son to Spartan however, he was insistant on attending AUA as many of his friends are in attendence there. If my younger daughter were to want to attend Spartan I would be totally supportive. As for California issues. I sat on the Medical Board of California for a few years and I know that Spartan was not approved for licensure by the state of California. From what I saw however, I do believe Spartan could apply and gain approval by California in the near future. Like I said earlier, Saba and Spartan are very similar. They look the same, the students looked the same, the classes were conducted in the same manner, and we were satisfied with both schools. If Saba can receive approval by California, then Spartan should be able to as well. When we spoke with Spartan administration they clearly stated that seeking California approval is in their "not so distant" future. I am confident that Spartan will receive California approval in the next few years. I have sat on the Medical Board of California so I would strongly advise alumni and students to not worry-Spartan will be around for a long time and students will be able to practice in the majority of states without a problem. My husband was the best trauma surgeon at his hospital, and in our old community! Several of his friends (Spartan and Ross graduates) are also doing very well and continue to make priceless contributions to medicine through their service. Bottom line is DO NOT WORRY!

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    did you miss the post were i tried to set up volunteering in sxm? being that they are part of the netherlands and france they wanted us to get papers done through europe and not only pay for the time we would be volunteering but also malpractice insurance....for 99% of the student body that takes out student loans it was too much...i guess all of us 'elititists' could just dio into our trust funds but i couldn't get ahold of my trust fund manager b/c he took my jet on vacation to sweden and had not gotten back in time.

    lets also not forget that sxm is unique in that your average person on the street selling bananas gets "wellfare/medicaid/etc" from first world contries so they really aren't in too bad shape. you should go there and see just how much the local government is willing to accept any kind of free help that would jepordize how much they get from netherlands/france.

    other than that try talking out of another body orifice..you know in between looking for a job after your canadian residence and applyting to the hungarian school
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    i think that may be the end of hearing pitstars "vast" experience in the medical morals and ethics of attending offshore schools.

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    Re: My visit to Spartan Health Sciences University

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfvgang22
    How do we know that this isn't just some fabricated person? I don't believe it until this person is proven to be real.
    i was thinking the SAME thing.

    spartan is equivalent to saba? not in another million years... the only two similarities between the two schools are that they are both offshore medical institutions with small class size. saba is superior beyond comparison in every aspect.

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    Re: My visit to Spartan Health Sciences University

    Quote Originally Posted by Kirst
    Quote Originally Posted by wolfvgang22
    How do we know that this isn't just some fabricated person? I don't believe it until this person is proven to be real.
    i was thinking the SAME thing.

    spartan is equivalent to saba? not in another million years... the only two similarities between the two schools are that they are both offshore medical institutions with small class size. saba is superior beyond comparison in every aspect.
    Kirst,

    Have you ever been there to Saba? -s&a

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    Re: My visit to Spartan Health Sciences University

    Quote Originally Posted by shockandawe
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirst
    Quote Originally Posted by wolfvgang22
    How do we know that this isn't just some fabricated person? I don't believe it until this person is proven to be real.
    i was thinking the SAME thing.

    spartan is equivalent to saba? not in another million years... the only two similarities between the two schools are that they are both offshore medical institutions with small class size. saba is superior beyond comparison in every aspect.
    Kirst,

    Have you ever been there to Saba? -s&a
    yes i visited the island and applied to the school. fall trimester was full, i got into spring trimester. i was stupid enough to follow my impatience and came to spartan that accepted me right into the fall trimester.

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    Re: My visit to Spartan Health Sciences University

    Quote Originally Posted by Kirst

    Kirst,

    Have you ever been there to Saba? -s&a

    yes i visited the island and applied to the school. fall trimester was full, i got into spring trimester. i was stupid enough to follow my impatience and came to spartan that accepted me right into the fall trimester.
    I'm sorry to hear that...

    You must have thought that Spartan had potential and it couldn't have been that much different than Saba, that you were willing to take a chance and go there, most likely because it is cheaper and you had a chance of starting earlier. Saba have really proven themselves. Unbelievable to think that this little school which is less than half the age of Spartan is kicking our buttocks.

    Our only hope now and it would be a long shot, is if someone buys the school... -s&a

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    Re: My visit to Spartan Health Sciences University

    Quote Originally Posted by shockandawe
    I'm sorry to hear that...

    You must have thought that Spartan had potential and it couldn't have been that much different than Saba, that you were willing to take a chance and go there, most likely because it is cheaper and you had a chance of starting earlier. Saba have really proven themselves. Unbelievable to think that this little school which is less than half the age of Spartan is kicking our buttocks.

    Our only hope now and it would be a long shot, is if someone buys the school... -s&a
    even if the school changes ownership, positive changes will take at least several years to take effect. i'm too far along in the game to see much glory out of it in my time. i'll have to continue to tread along this miserable path under the present administration, begging for disbursement of my loan cheques every trimester and triple checking that my documents are received and processed every rotation. other than that, it is constant praying and finger crossing everyday that the administration will not suddenly lose my records or randomly charge me more fees.

    my heart sank too many times in this school these past five trimesters. regardless, i did come out of my basic sciences with friends that will be for life, and was well taken care of by few, not all, inspiring and caring professors. overall i'm grateful for the opportunity i was provided with, but the administration sees to it that every step i take is not without its share of difficulty and disappointment.

    by coming to this school i demonstrated to myself and everyone that i'm a low caliber student. and this school proves just the same in return, over and over, that it is a low caliber school. one quickly realizes his/her own place here... oh well, who am i to complain... in the end i only have myself to blame for resorting down to this. i just kid myself that at least i'll be a "doctor" in just 20 more months. in paper anyway.

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    repeat education in approved school is the only option

    the only hope is repeat medical education in an approved school,If I was in my first 2-3 yrs med school in unapproved school I will repeat everything[its worth it],even in I was finishing clinicals I will seriously consider repeating[not transfering] to SABA.

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    Re: My visit to Spartan Health Sciences University

    Quote Originally Posted by Kirst
    by coming to this school i demonstrated to myself and everyone that i'm a low caliber student. and this school proves just the same in return, over and over, that it is a low caliber school.
    Don't necessarily agree with this. U might have gone to a "low caliber school", but doesn't necessarily make u a "low caliber student."

    Hang in there...
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    Re: My visit to Spartan Health Sciences University

    Quote Originally Posted by sean
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirst
    by coming to this school i demonstrated to myself and everyone that i'm a low caliber student. and this school proves just the same in return, over and over, that it is a low caliber school.
    Don't necessarily agree with this. U might have gone to a "low caliber school", but doesn't necessarily make u a "low caliber student."

    Hang in there...
    That's right, keep your chin up! You'll make a better doctor because of the obstacles you've overcome.
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