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    Soooo, the interviews with the folks at Griffin and the government officials never happened (11 years ago)? Is that your premise?

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    Even if that is the case, and I have no reason to assume otherwise, if the interview with Griffin (and the other sources) was accurate, then is it not "nothing but slander." It is an article with a point of view quite obviously slanted against Spartan, for some reason, but whatever.

    I am quite sure that there are students with excellent board scores from Spartan. Of course, that fact does nothing to change anyone else's scores, and the significantly lower admissions criteria of schools like Spartan -- not ONLY Spartan, mind... any similar school -- means that there will be a hell of a lot more students who are not popping 227+ on their Steps. The high scores are far more a testament to the dedication and hard work of those who achieve the solid board scores than a ringing endorsement for Spartan itself.

    Look, I totally get what you are saying, and I graduated from a school that takes some (richly deserved) heat from time to time, as well. The thing is that some of that heat is accurate, and some of it isn't. The other thing is that, in order for an opinion to be of much practical worth to anyone, one needs to be objective enough to talk about both sides of the issue. Positives and negatives. They both exist, and they are both part of the full picture of the school.

    (Also, this article is over a decade old. Why the OP saw fit to post it is more than a little sketchy, in and of itself. I think most of the school-trashing on VMD is perpetuated by the admin of 2nd/3rd echelon Carib schools trying to sway potential tuition dollars away from the competition, and towards their own coffers. Juvenile? Yes. Stupid? Supremely. Unsurprising? Alas, yeah.)

    Anyway, good luck to you, and I hope you crack that 227 barrier your damn self. Go get 'em.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jgalint View Post
    Are you seriously going to use a news article published in 2003 that references things that may or may not have happened in the 90s or earlier as evidence that the school is not fit to attend today in 2014? Is that your premise?
    Nope. I have no strong opinion one way or the other about Spartan, per se. I do think that students, alumni/ae, and (especially) administrators ought to be significantly more forthcoming in their presentation of the positives and negatives about a school... but that virtual Shangri-La does not exist in the world of VMD (or any other medical student forum of which I am aware).

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    Well, not the only thing. Better schools offer better training, better teaching, better rotations, and a better learning environment... but they cannot do the work for you. That said, it doesn't hurt to be in the most supportive academic environment possible, to maximize the learning experience. I believe that I would probably be a better (more prepared) intern now if I had not had to spend X% of my freaking time battling against the disorganization, post-communist inertia, crappy teaching, and infernal bloody runarounds that were an integral part of my medical school experience.

    I see how things run (like clockwork, in the land of Patek freaking Philippe) for medical students here in Switzerland, at a World Top 50 university hospital, and I just have to shake my head in wonder. It's pretty damn sweet, and essentially TBWMSEINH ("The Bizzaro World Medical School Experience I Never Had.") With that said, even great medical schools can graduate crappy docs, so there are no guarantees. In general, the harder you work, the better things tend to work out.

    Rock on, jgalint. I wish you well.

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    I called Spartan official and they don't want to give any official statement. Whoever bringing this is news of the last century. It is a history published by an unknown persons who has their own agenda. Spartan is a school in existence over 33 years, has trained over 2,000 physicians practicing all of the world, strives to maintain high standards with excellent professor's who are highly trained M.D.'s in their own field as well as PhD's. Some of our professor's have over 20 years teaching experience. The school is chartered by the government of St. Lucia with full monitoring committee approval, and recently obtained CAAM-HP approval. They also have a established a nursing program which will be getting CAAM-HP pproval. Most of the St. Lucian's will are joining Spartan for their medical education, they have excellent track record and accepted for U.S. residency programs.

    The school owns its own building with reserve electric generators and water supply. During the last hurricane Tomas the entire island was shut down for 1 month due to lack of electricity and water supply but not Spartan.During this crisis students used the facility to take showers and the school supplied a washer and dryer. Not a single student was sick during this period as the school ensured hot meal everyday. School officials said they do not want to involve in any internet discussions., they feel the people who write this "ancient news' have their own agenda. These do not want you to know the truth. If anyone wants to know the truth they are welcome visit the school and find the facts. They informed if any employee writes they are writing on their own and it's not an official statement from the school. Student know they are getting the best education, active students will never write anything negative. Only disgruntled terminated students may write negatively.

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    Quote Originally Posted by positivethinker View Post
    Student know they are getting the best education, active students will never write anything negative. Only disgruntled terminated students may write negatively.
    "The best education," huh? This is precisely the kind of overstatement that leads people to take posts with a grain of salt, positivethinker. Unless and until students are free to post about the positive AND the negative elements of their medical education, there is seriously no reason to believe anything that these students write. (That is a bit like expecting to get the real story about Russian politics from state-run news agencies like Pravda and Novinite.)

    Funny thing... I was not terminated from my medical school, graduated with honors, and still tell potential students the full list of +/- about the place. In fact, I do not recommend it to most people. That does not make me disgruntled. It makes me honest.
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