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    JohnDoe66 is offline Newbie 510 points
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    Did some research on Spartan - I`m honestly shocked!

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    I am in the process of applying to Caribbean Med Schools - and keeping my options open in case the Big 4 don't work out. I was trying to find out information about Spartan and I was stunned to say the least.

    Here is what I got;

    (1) From the Texas Medical Board Website
    -Apparently Spartan has had some legal problems with the State of Texas.

    "Spartan Health Sciences University, School of Medicine

    El Paso, Texas; New Mexico; Mexico; St. Lucia

    No degree-granting authority from the CB & no accreditation from a CB recognized accreditor. On 12/4/1986, enjoined from violating Texas law & assessed $6,000 in attorney’s fees. On 8/28/1997, cited for contempt of court & paid fines of $10,000 & attorney’s fees of $10,000. AKA Spartan University of Health Sciences. AKA St. Lucia Health Sciences University. Disapproved by the California Medical Board for licensure or training 06-13-85. Disapproved by the Medical Licensing Board of Indiana as of 10/18/1984."


    (2) An article I found;
    -This is just horrific to read.

    "These conditions have convinced officials in six states, including California and Texas, that licensing its graduates poses an unacceptable risk to patients. Some states won't even allow Spartan students to train in their hospitals.

    Those are drastic measures. Only a handful of the 1,642 medical schools located outside the United States and listed by the World Health Organization have been banned by any U.S. medical board"



    (3) From the Medical Board of California's Website.
    -There are only 10 International Medical Schools out of 1,642 that are banned in California - and Spartan is one of them - and this has been the case for 25 years!!!

    International Medical Schools Disapproved by the State of California

    "The Licensing Program has formally disapproved the international medical schools listed below. Therefore, neither education completed at, nor diplomas issued by, these schools will be accepted toward meeting the requirements for training and/or licensure in this state.

    "5. Spartan Health Sciences University, St. Lucia
    Date Disapproved: 06-13-85"

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    I hope this thread is not submitted by IAU administration.

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    I have no idea who IAU is .. or what IAU is. But after searching the internet for about 10 min I have a great idea of what Spartan is..and its a place I wouldn't go anywhere near.

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    Your copying and pasting old news... it is available on these boards if you searched. Yes SHSU was operating in Texas legally. The law changed and they attempted to fight it. They lost they moved to st. Lucia. Their move was legal and there are licensed graduates practicing in Texas. The issue with texas arrises from when they were actually located in the state. As you are well aware they are in St. Lucia now and again I repeat they have practicing and licensed physicians in Texas.


    In order to be banned by cali you have had to been one of two things (as far as I know):
    1. originally accepted then applied once dropped from the list(which SHSU did years ago). They were denied and therefore the current ban on graduates.
    2. Never accepted and then applied but rejected. None of the new schools with no history have applied recently therefore they are not banned (nor are they accepted).

    The old management had no desire for NY or Cali, therefore they never put any effort into re/attaining it/them. Instead they ran a small school which is one of the oldest in the carib, quietly graduating medical students who have continued on to become licensed physicians across the US, Canada, and many other countries. The new management does, therefore NY came out to visit and met the standards. There is a difference between them and many of the newer small schools. Furthermore SHSU has made changes to their program since the new management took over.

    As for sint eustac.... I have my own opinion about their honesty, but admit my opinion was based on what I was told during an interview (none of which turned out to be true or occur). I personally found them to be untrustworthy and the fact that the school is new with no real track record did not inspire confidence to me, which is why I did not attend. But I guess you can only base your decisions on your own experiences.
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    Good school new management

    I know that Spartan and other "banned" schools cleaned up shop, hired top faculty instructors, and upgraded the facilities....So, what was true in the 80s or even 90s is no longer valid...

    Most of the older schools are now under new management, offering better medical education, and the tuition is par with the top 5 schools.

    Cheers,

    Quote Originally Posted by specialknyc View Post
    Your copying and pasting old news... it is available on these boards if you searched. Yes SHSU was operating in Texas legally. The law changed and they attempted to fight it. They lost they moved to st. Lucia. Their move was legal and there are licensed graduates practicing in Texas. The issue with texas arrises from when they were actually located in the state. As you are well aware they are in St. Lucia now and again I repeat they have practicing and licensed physicians in Texas.


    In order to be banned by cali you have had to been one of two things (as far as I know):
    1. originally accepted then applied once dropped from the list(which SHSU did years ago). They were denied and therefore the current ban on graduates.
    2. Never accepted and then applied but rejected. None of the new schools with no history have applied recently therefore they are not banned (nor are they accepted).

    The old management had no desire for NY or Cali, therefore they never put any effort into re/attaining it/them. Instead they ran a small school which is one of the oldest in the carib, quietly graduating medical students who have continued on to become licensed physicians across the US, Canada, and many other countries. The new management does, therefore NY came out to visit and met the standards. There is a difference between them and many of the newer small schools. Furthermore SHSU has made changes to their program since the new management took over.

    As for sint eustac.... I have my own opinion about their honesty, but admit my opinion was based on what I was told during an interview (none of which turned out to be true or occur). I personally found them to be untrustworthy and the fact that the school is new with no real track record did not inspire confidence to me, which is why I did not attend. But I guess you can only base your decisions on your own experiences.

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    Texas

    When was this school ever operating legally in Texas? Please enlighten me.
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    So u cant practice in texas after residency ?!. I mean, is there ANY other way to get licensed in texas for spartan students?!.

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    Who cares? Texas is full of rednecks anyway.

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    Old News

    The stuff posted here is old news and has no effect on getting a TX license. The rules for TX medical license has been changed and people interested should look at the board's website.

    I suspect this stuff is posted by IAU which is run out of a top floor of a shopping center in town.

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