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    hello everyone....I am currently enetering the third trimester class at Spartan.....This article as raised ALOT of concers and people are starting to freak out....even students on the island!.....I must admit that Spartan does have its defficiencies BUT NOT how that reporter from Connecticut described!.....I in my three trimesters can say that Spartan lacks certain aspects of proper medical education which are essential for holistic medical education, however, it does provide us with what we need to pass boards and practice in the USA.....Spartan is not a school that spoonfeeds by any means!....success of the student is up to the student and the student alone.....I have been advised several caribbean medical school officials from AUC, Ross, Saba, St.Georges, and St.Matthews that say when practicing in the USA the fact that you are a caribbean graduate is what will cause prejudice to come your way...NOT WHAT CARIBBEAN SCHOOL YOU ATTENDED!.....What brings us caribbean students to the level of american students come residency is out BOARD SCORES...NOT SCHOOL!.....USMLE is an EQUILIZER if you will!.....The reporter who conducted this most absured and biased report on Spartan was absolutley NOT NEUTRAL in his tone......Does anyone know that Dr.Bristol, one of the doctors in St.Lucia who bashed the school to the reporter, was denied employment by the University as a proffessor!.....The reporter had the sole intent to do damage and he did it!.....The quotes taken from students were completely distorted!....I personally know Tracy Mack, one of the students interviewed and made to sound like a fool.....He did not say any such things that the reporter "quoted" him as saying.....Several witnesses will testify to that fact as they were with Tracy while the reporter was badgering him!!!.......Anyways.....I believe this article was very poorly done with a clear intent to hurt the school's reputation (I do not know for what reason)......Spartan's clinical sites and affiliates still recognize Spartan and will continue to provide clincal training to Spartan students......My focus is to get through the basic sciences program at Spartan and do very well on USMLE step 1......Afterall, it really does not matter what caribbean school you went to....the fact of the matter is that you could not get into an American or Canadian school!

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    Thank you for your input

    Hi, i too wonder after reading all and every post related to spartan and doing my own research about the school what is the reason why they have so little graudates in residency?

    This fact has really made me look else where, you are right in the fact that it is the USMLE that sets us on equal basis with American Schools but proper basic training is required as well. And from your own comments spartan is NOT a good school since it lacks so much.

    I wonder though if you had to do it over again would you choose spartan ?

    Thanks

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    A few questions:

    1. Why was Dr. Bristol turned down? As the article stated, he is "a surgeon on the committee that reviews applications for medical licenses in St Lucia". Would it not been a wise move to have hired him, even on a part time basis?

    2. The article quoted the 2002 AMA guide with having only 219 graduates registered with them . (Sorry DrB, not 289) Any idea why in over 20+ years, so few graduates registered with AMA? That's an average of about 10 grads a year. So, which 10 of the current students of about 100(?) of 2003 will be the lucky ones?

    3. At least currentstudent confirmed the presence of the reporter on site. Was any executive, dean, admin of Spartan interviewed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by currentstudent
    I have been advised several caribbean medical school officials from AUC, Ross, Saba, St.Georges, and St.Matthews that say when practicing in the USA the fact that you are a caribbean graduate is what will cause prejudice to come your way...NOT WHAT CARIBBEAN SCHOOL YOU ATTENDED!.....What brings us caribbean students to the level of american students come residency is out BOARD SCORES...NOT SCHOOL!

    Incorrect. To a point that is. Some of these caribbean schools have a somewhat established reputation with residency directors which means a big advantage.

    Not all caribbean schools are created alike.

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    good luck

    I can tell you from personal experience [18 years]and just completed job search to relocate,the administrations asks why did you go to OFFSHORES school and "is it in Greneda",some schools little better in our eyes but in the eyes of most hospital directors"a carribean grad is a carribean grad"and no such thing is Harvard of the carribean.But to be neutral and fair the big three[especially Ross]are expensive but good schools and the students on the Island must fight to improve the facilities otherwise they will face more crticism and challenges.

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    good luck

    Quote Originally Posted by theprofessor
    a carribean grad is a carribean grad"and no such thing is Harvard of the carribean.

    So someone from Spartan and someone from SGU are the same? haha, keep dreaming. Reputation and name plays a big role in these matters.

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    I do not dream

    SGU without doubt is better on many aspects but based on over 30 interviews and 17 years in practice I shared my experience that the majority of the officials I interviewed with did not know the difference between the offshore schools ,may be the big 3 known in NY and CA but department directors labled all of the carribean grads as "offshore school grads" during my residency,fellowship,and numerous job interviews.
    Of course students who can pay for the big 3 should go to one of them.
    sorry about the misunderstanding.

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    ok

    Understood. It would probably make a difference on where you interview for these residencies.

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    Well

    Do the math... ~20 students per trimester, approximated 25% pass rate, 20 some years since charter. ~300 licensed practitioners sounds about right.

    As for the pass rate- schools advertising 90%+ pass rate often fail to acknowledge the corresponding attrition rate. A reputable Caribbean school (hrm, there's an oxymoron) would be forwarding students of better caliber to the boards by 'higher' admission standards and weed-out basic sciences curriculum. On the other hand, there's Spartan that apparently accepts everyone who applies, and never fails anyone- then isn't 25% pass rate plenty flattering?

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