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    Hi Everyone,
    This is my first post here although I've been lurking the main forum and have read through most the information in this forum. I recently applied to the SGU-SVM after about a year of toying with the idea, changing my mind and filling out an application for Ross and then deciding that SGU would be a better option. I sent in my application last week so have not heard anything yet. Couple of questions:
    1) not really important, but if I call Bayshore in about 2 weeks will they let me know if all my materials for my application have been recieved? (Transcripts, GRE scores, LOR etc) I have sent all the stuff in before my application but my undergrad institution seems to have a history of not sending my transcripts when I ask them to.
    2) I've been hearing/reading (not here) a lot of negative things about SGU/caribbean vet school and have gotten a little concerned. Like I said, I have researched this school for over a year, have been in contact with the recruiter (?) for awhile and have attended an open house. I feel fairly confident about my decision but want to here from students who are there currently. Do you feel you made the correct decision? Do you have any fears that you will not be able to do what you want (specialize) or practice where you want? (I heard a rumor that some states will not accept SGU vet school grads) Are you satisfied with the quality of your education and the professors that are teaching you? Are you getting a lot of hands on experience and when did you start obtaining the hands on experience? What are labs like-do you get ample opportunity to do everything or is the lab size too large that it's hard to see or do things?
    3) What do you wish you had been told before attending SGU SVM and what were you told about the school that you found out to be different when you arrived?
    4) How hard was it to get financing? I think I have ok credit (avg around 700 CS last time I checked) are there lots of loans available, even with high intrest rates?
    Thank you very much for any help/insight you can give. I'm sorry if there are too many questions/this is too long.
    Thanks again
    ~S.

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    Welcome

    Welcome to the forums ToraB! Thanks for posting!

    I agree with your decision in applying to SGU over Ross (obvious bias), but they are both good schools. I don't know all that much about Ross, but I have heard on multiple occasions that St. Kitt's isn't as safe and friendly for students as Grenada. I am sure opinions would vary, however.

    It sounds like you have a general idea of some issues and student opinions from reading posts here. Thats great, ask away:

    Quote Originally Posted by ToraB View Post
    1) not really important, but if I call Bayshore in about 2 weeks will they let me know if all my materials for my application have been recieved? (Transcripts, GRE scores, LOR etc) I have sent all the stuff in before my application but my undergrad institution seems to have a history of not sending my transcripts when I ask them to.
    I think I remember doing the same thing myself. My theory is, even at the risk of mildly annoying some of the admissions staff, calling them to verify everything has arrived is a great idea. Especially if there is a chance of something not getting there. As long as you are polite and patient, I think it shows you are excited and concerned about your admissions status. Once you have verified all your info is there, though, it may take awhile for them to review your stuff, so you should let them work it out until you hear a final word.

    Quote Originally Posted by ToraB View Post
    2) I've been hearing/reading (not here) a lot of negative things about SGU/caribbean vet school and have gotten a little concerned. Like I said, I have researched this school for over a year, have been in contact with the recruiter (?) for awhile and have attended an open house. I feel fairly confident about my decision but want to here from students who are there currently. Do you feel you made the correct decision?
    What kind of things have you been hearing? I am generally pretty positive about my experiences here, but it hasn't been perfect. At times, different things with SGU and Grenada are quite frustrating. Usually administrative type stuff with SGU and cultural coping with Grenada and Grenadians. As far as academics and classes and such though, I am very happy with SGU. The professors have some ups-and-downs, but with speaking with others at many other schools in the US that is how it is everywhere. The resident faculty here is very good and many of the VP's (visiting professors) are excellent (again...ups-and-downs). The facilities (labs and such) are not fantastic, but they are getting better due to SGU pursuing AVMA accreditation.

    As to whether I feel I made the correct decision, YES. Honestly though, I applied via VMCAS in the US 2 years in a row and would probably still be trying to get in. SGU is just as academically rigorous and I am doing very well. I want to be a vet and I will be, I definitely will never regret this decision.

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    Do you have any fears that you will not be able to do what you want (specialize) or practice where you want? (I heard a rumor that some states will not accept SGU vet school grads) Are you satisfied with the quality of your education and the professors that are teaching you?
    I have it in the back of my head (it just won't go away) that I will specialize and the time where I need to make that decision is very close. Perhaps I am overconfident but I don't think it will matter that I went to SGU. GPA and extracurricular activities are what matters (afterthought...and WHO you know!! externships and the like!!). I have spoken with several faculty from Penn, Cornell, and NC State (some of the top ranked vet schools in the US met while doing externships and the like) and they have reinforced this as far as specializing. As for general practice, I did hear something about Connecticut but if you go the route of the ECFVG and not PAVE you really should be able to practice anywhere that will hire you. The PAVE still has limited acceptance in maybe 25 or so states.

    Quote Originally Posted by ToraB View Post
    Are you getting a lot of hands on experience and when did you start obtaining the hands on experience? What are labs like-do you get ample opportunity to do everything or is the lab size too large that it's hard to see or do things?
    Hands on experience starts your first semester here. You aren't doing surgeries or anything but you will during your 3rd year. Hands on experience is probably one thing where SGU really excels. You will go into your clinical year in the US or UK or wherever with more experience than the students from that school. At least that is what I am told from those I have spoken with who are in US schools right now.

    Class sizes can vary considerably. The Fall class always seems to be quite a bit larger than the Spring due to applicant pools. But you will still get plenty of hands on, especially if you don't just sit around with your hands in your pocket. You will have the opportunity if you take it, be aggressive with what you want to learn while still being considerate of your classmates.

    I am not trying to be too positive or sell you on anything. Many things can be difficult sometimes and vet school can sometimes be depressing and humbling.

    If anything, come in confident that you are no less capable than anyone in any school anywhere. There will be plenty of time for vet school to beat you down without starting out that way!

    I am now a mod here and am keeping a closer eye on replying to post as well as trying to recruit more people so....keep posting with whatever you got!

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    oops...I realized I forgot a couple:

    Quote Originally Posted by ToraB View Post
    3) What do you wish you had been told before attending SGU SVM and what were you told about the school that you found out to be different when you arrived?
    I don't really have a good answer for this one, maybe I've been down here too long to remember. I was accepted fairly shortly before the term began and everything was a whirlwind.

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    4) How hard was it to get financing? I think I have ok credit (avg around 700 CS last time I checked) are there lots of loans available, even with high intrest rates?
    From what I've been told, as long as you're above 650 you'll be fine. There are not lots of loans available, it is pretty much the same package for everyone in the vet school. It is a mix of private and Stafford loans. I think I will be at about $150,000 when all is said and done, give or take a few thousand.

    I would highly recommend applying for the 'Vet Mentor Scholarship' if you have someone who is willing to do it for you.

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    Thank You very much for your input. I had a meeting with my pre-vet advisor last friday and he's the one that told me lots of negatives and I think it made me panic a little bit. Although I should have known better than to listen to him since he's the one that's also been telling me I'll never be a vet and should consider an alternate career. I feel fairly confident that SGU will provide me with a quality education that will allow me to be the vet I want to be, I guess I just got a little nervous
    Thank you again for your input it really helped bring everything back into focus. Now it's just waiting to hear anything back...

    Sara

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    What are the average stats for acceptance to SGU's vet program? I have friend that is interested.

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    average stats

    The average GPA of our incoming students is a 3.15. So we are less competitive than the U.S. schools. What is great about St. George's is that the review board really takes the time to review your complete application, and they take everything into consideration when making a decision.



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    What are the average stats for acceptance to SGU's vet program? I have friend that is interested.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffrey SGU View Post
    The average GPA of our incoming students is a 3.15. So we are less competitive than the U.S. schools. What is great about St. George's is that the review board really takes the time to review your complete application, and they take everything into consideration when making a decision.
    Thank you for the information, I will pass it along.

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    [quote=ToraB;551201]Hi Everyone,
    This is my first post here although I've been lurking the main forum and have read through most the information in this forum. I recently applied to the SGU-SVM after about a year of toying with the idea, changing my mind and filling out an application for Ross and then deciding that SGU would be a better option. I sent in my application last week so have not heard anything yet. Couple of questions:

    Tora,
    I think you have made a WISE choice in seeking out SGU for your vet education over ross. It's true that ross has been around longer but sgu dvm is almost a decade old and has the foundation of having a robust med school behind it. The campus facilities are already nice, sans the vet lecture room and there will be a BRAND NEW all purpose vet building (Feb/March 2007 completion date) in a very prominent place on campus. There is a newly renovated vet teaching hospital that is adequate at best, but you'll get the experience you need.

    The vet teaching hospital is pretty much your basic one story vet clinic with a few stables out back, nothing like the new Banfield financed facility that western university students will be calling home soon. Fortunately, banfield or vca won't be directly seducing students to whore themselves out to there vet factories. Having many friends/relatives as MD's/dentists, I am VERY disappointed at the lack of ambition and business acumen that vet students appear to have. We need to preserve private practice and fight against banfield/vca corporations basically turning our profession into the mess that is pharmacy. Ok, enough, I'll take it up in another thread...

    1) Yes, bayshore, will gladly let you know of your application status. I too like sissyphus, applied right before the term and was interviewed and admitted rapidly. I have had a good experience with the application process, much better than the year long application cycle of US schools. I sent in 3 LOR's, two from bio (biochem/genetics) profs and a small animal vet I volunteered with.

    2) About the negativity you have been experiencing in regards to SGU DVM... I have a feeling that you are being discouraged by people who have never visited, attended, or even knew a SGU DVM grad. And do me a BIG favor, please don't listen to your "pre-vet advisors", as they will only obfuscate you further. They don't really like to go out of their comfort zone of US schools and won't hesitate to label any foreign school as inadequate and greatly inferior to their stateside counterparts. Their assumptions are patently false, as SGU DVM will allow you to pursue your goals of joining a noble and prestigious profession. Lets put it more bluntly, if you follow the advice of the nay-sayers, then you could very well wallow in reapplicant hell and face the possibility of never attaining your dreams OR do what you want and go realize your aspirations at SGU DVM. Do your own research, as you are doing, and decide for yourself.

    Anatomy Lab: You will have anatomy lab 3 times a week where you and your groupmates (4-5 total) will have your own dog/cat cadaver and will dissect and learn every possible muscle/nerve/artery/vein/bone/structure you can imagine. Physically, the actual lab building is modern with air conditioning, clean and well maintained floors, new dissection tables, you will have your own dissection kit, and there will be short lectures presented in a projector inside the lab before every lecture.

    Histology Lab: Histo lab is located inside the main 1 story vet buildings that are located near the anatomy lab. You will learn basic vet histology by observing prepared slides on the microscopes located at each work station. The professor will go over the objectives of the day's lab by highlighting the importance of each slide, which you will see on the numerous tv's that project the professor's microscope. The histo lab is just like any lab at a stateside lab.

    As for #3 and 4, I am still very early in my education at SGU and don't have any regrets at all. I will update my experiences as they accrue. If you have any questions about the application/interview/preparation phase of this process, let me know and I'll try to do my best to answer as I DO have experience in those aspects.

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    I work for an IVG and I have never had a client ask me "where did Dr X go to vet school?"

    Other than that, what Doc said, it's not all pink fluffy clouds and bonnets down here but hey, when you're in-you're IN. And you're gonna be a DVM. And once you pass your boards and get your license you can do whatever you like.
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