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    ECFMG Certified at time of residency application?

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    so from reading the website of maimo and also from email exchanges with a couple other residencies i found out that some places require you to be ecfmg certified at the time of applying if you are an img. i attempted to clarify this with the coordinator at maimo and she reiterated the same thing. this was despite me telling her that in order to be certified i had to graduate first, which basically means that no one from a current sgu class can apply to maimo (only previous grads). her response was basically that this has been the rule but that there is always a solution to all problems.

    to people who have recently applied/interviewed have you dealt with this situation and did this mean that there was no way they would consider your app? i'm wondering if there is any sense in hoping that if your application and interview are strong enough, then they would be more lenient on this?

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    I have been wondering the same thing. From 2 previous grads the info I received was that, even though most of them say that, they don't really care, but if they do calling them and explaining to them the graduation thing and make sure you state that YOU WILL BE Certified in JUNE BEFORE residency, they all accept the notion. Apparently the experience was that most of them don't really understand this certification they just know IMGs need it.... soooooo.... you know.... closed mindedness, however once the statement of certification before residency is presented they seem to take it as a matter of fact.... "oh yeah, of course that's fine, as long as you have it before you start"
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    Quote Originally Posted by masalamonkey View Post
    so from reading the website of maimo and also from email exchanges with a couple other residencies i found out that some places require you to be ecfmg certified at the time of applying if you are an img. i attempted to clarify this with the coordinator at maimo and she reiterated the same thing. this was despite me telling her that in order to be certified i had to graduate first, which basically means that no one from a current sgu class can apply to maimo (only previous grads). her response was basically that this has been the rule but that there is always a solution to all problems.

    to people who have recently applied/interviewed have you dealt with this situation and did this mean that there was no way they would consider your app? i'm wondering if there is any sense in hoping that if your application and interview are strong enough, then they would be more lenient on this?
    My roommate applied and interviewed at Maimo for IM and this issue was never brought up, so unless they changed it for the 2013 match, I'm pretty sure you don't need to be certified before applying. From personal experience I know that a lot of programs say that certification is required to apply, but what they mean is that you should be certifiable (ie have all your exams done and are set to graduate on time). ECFMG also sends out a "verification of certification" document that states that you have all the exams (Step 1, Step 2CK and CS), so some programs accept this instead of the actual certification at time of application. Like said above, it helps calling programs since there is a lot of confusion. Some programs only say must be ECFMG certified without specifying a time frame. Being certified before application is a lot different than being certified before starting Residency.

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    This is indeed true and it's up to you to research the program and see if ECFMG is a requirement for application and interview. Many of the Texas programs are like this, as are others. It's perfectly within their right, even though completely unfair from our perspective. Essentially, even if they like you... if you drag your feet and don't get your ECFMG cert in time, you simply can't start work until you have it. That's a risk that many PD's are simply not willing to take even though it's usually not an issue. However, that underscores the importance of getting your ECFMG cert ASAP. Be on top of this because if you get too close to residency starting and don't have it yet, you will not be able to start work and possibly could be dropped from your contract and replaced. From the PD perspective, it's a risk... they like you, they want you, but essentially you are missing an important piece of documentation that potentially could not come through for a variety of reasons and hence it is risky from their perspective. ECFMG issues and delays are not uncommon.

    I repeat, do not drag your feet with getting it. Several people had delays and barely got it in time to start residency. Again, if you don't have it, you can't start work and could lose your position. Don't put yourself in that predicament. Stay on top of the school upon graduation to get your documentation and processing completed and stay on top of the ECFMG application stuff.

    My 2 cents, having been there.

    You guys are correct though in that most PD's who interview FMG's just assume that you'll have it in time, and most do. The majority of programs, in EM, that I applied to where they had ECFMG "prior to applying" requirements, in general did not interview Carib grads at all for this very reason. Most of the ones I remember were in Texas, but I'm sure there are many others.

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    I have a question on a similar note. My diploma date is going to be June 15th this year, in hindsight i realize setting up my schedule like this was a poor decision. Does anyone from years past know if people who did the June diploma date and are American citizens had trouble getting ECFMG certified in time for residency start dates. Not trying to go for texas or cali.

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