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    Can Cores be anywhere?

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    I was wondering if anyone can help? I know this would be added effort, but if SGU does not have affiliated hospitals in IL and I really wanted to go there for ACGME Core rotations, could I set it up with Bayshore & Hospital to rotate in Chicago, for example? I guess what I am asking is, does SGU have to have an existing affilation with a hospital for students to do ACGME approved Cores there (and hospitals not on that list are off limits for Cores)?

    What about electives? Can those be done anywhere? Do they need to be ACGME approved? Electives are usually done in the 4th year, is that correct?

    I know other schools do rotations in IL, but I am asking about SGU specifically.

    Thanks a lot for any input!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kongakut View Post
    I was wondering if anyone can help? I know this would be added effort, but if SGU does not have affiliated hospitals in IL and I really wanted to go there for ACGME Core rotations, could I set it up with Bayshore & Hospital to rotate in Chicago, for example? I guess what I am asking is, does SGU have to have an existing affilation with a hospital for students to do ACGME approved Cores there (and hospitals not on that list are off limits for Cores)?

    What about electives? Can those be done anywhere? Do they need to be ACGME approved? Electives are usually done in the 4th year, is that correct?

    I know other schools do rotations in IL, but I am asking about SGU specifically.

    Thanks a lot for any input!
    if you can get a hospital with ACGME rotations to sign a contact with sgu, then yes you can do rotations there- but this is easier said than done. If the hospital does not have an affliation contract with sgu,(not just a single affliation contract, but a full contract), the no you will not be able to do core rotations there - all cores MUST be done at affliated hospitals.
    Electives are different - you can do 12 of your 38 weeks of electives at unaffliated hospitals (though some states do have licensure regulations about unaffliated rotations), so those weeks can be done with an ACGME approved program (or the equivilant).
    so if Ill is important to you, either work to get a program to sign a contractual agreement to become a clinical center or go to a school that already has cores in Ill (the closest SGU comes in Mich).
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    Thanks for the info, Rokshana. It sounds like it may not be possible unless we can form a coup. All the students from Chi Town unite! Let's bring SGU clinicals to the Windy City.

    Ok, well, I guess I should get accepted first....

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    cores ma ONLY be at affilliates.; further even if you do outside electives keep in mind a state may not give you credit for it when applying for a licensre even if the outside elective is the best school in the country.
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    Good luck with your campaign! I tried to get a core hospital set up in Baltimore but every hospital I contacted told me they were already full of students from other Caribbean schools...sigh....hope you have better luck!!

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    Home sweet home

    It would be great to have my rotations in my hometown and would also benefit my finances since I can stay with my family. I wouldn't want to do anything to jepardize my chances for licensure so I will cease and desist my campaign until I actually get accepted somewhere....

    Thanks for the feedback....

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    Quote Originally Posted by rokshana View Post
    .........If the hospital does not have an affliation contract with sgu,(not just a single affliation contract, but a full contract), the no you will not be able to do core rotations there......
    Hey rokashana. Can you explain what this means? Does this require SGU to pay the hospital?

    Quote Originally Posted by rokashana
    .............Electives are different - you can do 12 of your 38 weeks of electives at unaffliated hospitals (though some states do have licensure regulations about unaffliated rotations), so those weeks can be done with an ACGME approved program (or the equivilant)......
    So what you're saying is that doing elective rotations at unaffiliated hospitals may cause problems in licensure in some states? Are there states that will not license you for this? So do you think its a bad idea to do electives at unaffiliated hospitals?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.X View Post
    Hey rokashana. Can you explain what this means? Does this require SGU to pay the hospital?



    So what you're saying is that doing elective rotations at unaffiliated hospitals may cause problems in licensure in some states? Are there states that will not license you for this? So do you think its a bad idea to do electives at unaffiliated hospitals?

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    yes it does require sgu to pay- sgu pays (as does other schools)for the placement of their students in clinical programs. The problem in getting affliations with US programs is not with the school paying for placement. When I asked Dr. W(the clinical dean) about getting hospitals in the Southeast- he told me that sgu would like to have affliations in the south and are working on it, but iif I had any connections or could find a program willing to form an affliation with sgu, that sg was very willing.

    some states, like Texas(though this has recently changed so check on it) require that all cores and electives be done at programs affiliated with the school for licensure - Pa. I think has stringent requirements as well. You need to check the requirements for the states you are interested in.

    personally, I plan to do unaffiliated rotations, but VA doesn't have any issues with unaffiliated rotations so I can use those rotations to kind of interview for programs i want to be at.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rokshana View Post
    yes it does require sgu to pay- sgu pays (as does other schools)for the placement of their students in clinical programs. The problem in getting affliations with US programs is not with the school paying for placement. When I asked Dr. W(the clinical dean) about getting hospitals in the Southeast- he told me that sgu would like to have affliations in the south and are working on it, but iif I had any connections or could find a program willing to form an affliation with sgu, that sg was very willing.

    some states, like Texas(though this has recently changed so check on it) require that all cores and electives be done at programs affiliated with the school for licensure - Pa. I think has stringent requirements as well. You need to check the requirements for the states you are interested in.

    personally, I plan to do unaffiliated rotations, but VA doesn't have any issues with unaffiliated rotations so I can use those rotations to kind of interview for programs i want to be at.
    Were you able to set up unaffiliated electives in the south east? Would you pls walk us through the process.

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    so from a licensing point of view the best thing to do is also the easiest, and that is to just do all your rotations at SGU affiliated hospitals. right?
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