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    Classes at All Saints that need to be fixed

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    1) Genetics:
    - The teacher has supposly a PhD, but she can't even teach. I am looking at my First Aid and i did not find anything she was teaching. Plus she is a student at All Saints [So this is kind of scam]

    2) Neuro-Anatomy
    - The professor here just reads off her slides and when asked questions, she has no idea about whats going on. maybe she learned that in that 9 years. She hasn not taught anything High Yield and we are always learning the same thing [This is kind of scam right?] .

    3) Physio
    - teacher used to show the kaplan Video's and could not even answer students questions [I know this is scam for sure, showing Kaplan DVD's in class as substitude for her lack of knowledge in the field]

    4) Histology
    - the teacher in this class teaches, ethics, psych and epi, and i am pretty sure from what i heard, she has problems with all her classes. She doesnt teach anything about USMLE in relationship with the content of courses. [this is a scam, since the teacher has no idea what usmle even is]

    5) Microbiology
    - Ok, this teacher does not even like to teach. he takes slides off SMSO and posts them up, and uses the old teachers slides. From what i have heard, this teacher has a problem with this course and now he is going to teach Histo or something else.

    6) PDI and ICM
    - In this course, every other school has the new equipments, SIMMEN and other tools to assist the students in the clinical setting. In this course the teacher reads the Book before class, then she teaches word for word from the old Textbook. No notes, no slides and no direction for US clinicals. We dont even learn about electronic records or other important facts about pre-ICM.

    7) Patho-physio
    - to be frank, is this teachers first semester here. he is a graduate from St.Chris and is understandble why he is even here. I kind of feel bad for him, he is in his 30's or so and he knows it and i know it, he will be out of here sooner or later. [He went to scam school, and now he is back in one again]

    Premed courses now
    ALL courses = Nonsense and total waist of time and money.

    Clinicals = Limited Clinicals

    Dean = has no qualifications, has no medical training, has no idea even how to run the medical school
    Last edited by bboybetts; 07-26-2008 at 12:11 PM.

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    Bboybetts

    Do you know why I believe you? Because I have seen the kind of thing you are talking about in my involvement in bad offshore schools like the one you attend, and describe.

    You say that the Genetics teacher is a PhD who is a student at All Saints and who cannot teach.

    Some schools will employ students with terminal degrees in lieu of fees. This is often a conflict of interest, as the student/teacher often mistreats his fellow students. I have met a so called PhD at St Martinus who couldn’t teach anything in medical school, because he was neither a doctor, and he got his PhD from a guru school.

    If the teacher didn’t mention anything at all from the Genetic section of First Aid that does not sound right, because there is a faithful saying that COMMON THINGS ARE COMMON. There is certain basic information that MUST BE PRESENTED ACCORDING TO THE TENETS OF THE USMLE OBJECTIVES.

    When you say “The teacher has supposly a PhD, but she can't even teach” I believe you because it is common at many bogus schools, and the ADMIN KNOW IT AND THEY DON’T CARE.
    Prospective students: caveat emptor. Run from this school!

    You said that your Neuro-Anatomy teacher just reads off her slides and when asked questions, she has no idea about whats going on. Well some schools mix and match with their Neuroscience program. This area is difficult for all medical students, and adequate teachers need to be sought for this discipline. This is not something that every Tom, **** & Harry can handle.

    But if the teacher does not have the sense to consult texts like BRS, High Yield series etc to deliver some nuggets of truth then there is a problem. The Dean has the responsibility to be on top of the situation to have books for his staff and books in the library that will simplify and facilitate the delivery of the relevant material?
    Prospective students: caveat emptor. Run from this school!

    WHAT SORT OF LIBRARY IS THERE AT YOUR SCHOOL? BET ITS LIKE THOSE AT MOST OF THE OTHER POOR SCHOOLS?

    Well if your Physiology teacher shows the kaplan Video's as substitute for her lack of knowledge in the field, that is better than the ones you cite above. At least she knows one source of useful material. Again the school is to blame in chosing inadequate staff, but also in not providing suitable teaching materials.

    I don’t know what kind of questions you say she could not even answer, because I have met students who asked such stupid questions, that I was flabbergasted. So I will not go there with you.
    Prospective students: caveat emptor. Run from this school!


    You say that the Histology teacher teaches, ethics, psych and epi, and has problems with all her classes, and doesnt teach anything about USMLE in relationship with the content of courses………since the teacher has no idea what usmle even is]


    I can understand that too. I have been at school where neither the Dean or the teachers had even heard of, far less seen the USMLE objectives. But a teacher that mixes ethics, psych and epi, in Histology classes, leaves much to be desired!
    Prospective students: caveat emptor. Run from this school!

    You say that the Microbiology teacher does not even like to teach and has a problem with this course. At least he is smart enough to take slides off SMSO and post them up, and to use the old teachers slides. This is very common in bogus offshore schools. Once they can get a man at their price to go in the classroom and say something, they can say they offered the course. Who cares about the student. Welcome to the bogus medical pedagogy!
    Prospective students: caveat emptor. Run from this school!

    Your comments about the Patho-physio teacher borders on the ridiculous, because I know for a fact that some seasoned doctors with over 30 years experience have applied to teach at your school, and never even got the decency of a response. Now I can tell them that at ASUSOM they need 30 year olds just out of a scam school to teach, rather than a teacher who attended a bone fide school and has 30 years teaching and practicing medicine.


    Dean = has no qualifications, has no medical training, has no idea even how to run the medical school. This is very obvious Sir!

    Prospective students: caveat emptor. Run from this school!

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    Interesting

    That is a very interesting post you put up there.
    There are a few things that I would like to clarify, which may seem as a false representations to those that are not attending the school.

    1) Genetics
    For those who are in the genetics classes have gotten a course outline. That course outline has been followed precisely and if you have Thompson and Thompson Genetics, the same topics that are in the syllabus are covered in that text book. The Genetics teacher does hold a PhD and was one very fortunate to come to our school with an excellent background on genetics..being that she was one of those individuals that spent her time on the Human Genome Project. Yes, she is a student wanting to become a doctor..but who said you have to be a doctor to teach. Shes' a genetics expert so she teaches that course.

    2) Neuro-Anatomy
    Does it matter how long it takes someone to finish med-school. Do we know what happened to that teacher..What were her obligations and why it took her so long. She is a doctor...she passed her step 1 and step 2 with amazing grades and is a Ross Graduate. She answers all questions and she is not a neuro anatomist but anything that is uncertain is always answered the following day if she is unsure..I also believe that the neuro anatomy teacher was telling everyone to purchase first aid regarding our STeps. She also tells us what is going to be very important on the steps and teaches it

    3) Physio Teacher
    When the Physio teacher that was hired (the one playing kaplan videos in class ) was merely a mistake that was made by the school. Having gotten her doctrate degree in Cuba, her transcript yielded excellent grades and her steps were all excellent. She was hired, but she brought her personal problems to school. Yes the students were greatly upset but now the head of physiology is another person who holds a PhD in physiology and was also working at SABA

    4) Histology Teacher
    You say that she has problems with the class and she does not even konw what USMLE is..its funny since that you say that since she wrote the USMLE and makes exams according to USMLE style. The only people that are having problems with her are R,A,M,V,P and some other students that are taking her classes and it obviously is the student. She is a doctor working in dominica, graduated from CUBA and has also passed her steps.

    5) Biochemistry Teacher
    Highly qualified biochemist and knows everything about everything. He also is a doctor ..and a biochemist

    Now, my point to post this thread is to let all students know that yes..all saints university is a new school..it is not as great as ross or st.georges but it'ls like any new school that is starting. Our school is accredited. We have over 30 students in rotations, not just from all saints dominica but also aruba too...we are allowed to rotate in 32 states

    As for all this mess that is going on value MD..this is the truth of the matter.
    There are a few students that are leaving the school and here are the reasons.

    1) Our school does not provide OSAP and this was known to any student that was applying to this school. The school obviously was trying to allow OSAP to give our students a loan but the school needs to be more than 10 years old. Might I add, ROSS UNIVERSITY has been around for 30 years but when it first started it was 5 students in a hotel room and it has become a big success since. These students that are leaving are bribing and threatning the administration because they want a discount. Obviously they are angry and want to leave because the school is not allowing this discount so they write these ugly posts that are not even true. Or 1/4 of the truth..is it the schools fault that their parents cant afford it..I mean knowing ahead of time...if they knew they werent going to get OSAP..doesnt mean you need to go around to P and Y and threaten them that ur leaving so they give you a discount and trying to get many members of the school to do the same. This is a new school so these students think that they can just come and take over and get what they want.

    2) Because all these students are leaving, they want to give All saints a bad reputation so that other students wont come. Carribean schools are a money making business but with that comes the education that we are getting at this school.

    This school is a new school but it is accreddited and you are getting the same education that you will get elsewhere..

    SO TO PROSPECTIVE STUDENTS..you do NOT need to RUN AWAY from ALL SAINTS....it may not have the greatest infrastructure or building but the education is excellent from highly qualified teachers...

    You may look into other schools and exert other options..but this school is no scam..you are guaranteed to be a doctor and will be licensced to work in 32 states (not including New york as yet)
    Speak to students that are doing their rotations or graduating, and call the school yourself and make your own judgement..

    Do not believe false rumours without finding out yourself ...

    and FYI..all these posts are just written by the sae 5 people with different accounts...( i know )

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    Student 44

    It is very interesting that you are another newbie that seems to know all the inner workings of ASUSOM. You know all the qualifications and details of the cv’s of all; the teachers- very interesting.

    It is very interesting too that you point out in your preamble that the things that you want to clarify “may seem as a false representations to those that are not attending the school.” Why should they? Why are you not speaking as one with authority, knowing that you are telling the truth as in a court of law?

    Student 44 you are able to tell us the details of the cv’s of the Physiology Teacher, the Biochemistry Teacher the Histology Teacher the Genetics Teacher. Student 44, you sound like Admin. Lol.

    Re Genetics


    Was the course outline you got in the genetics classes in keeping with the USMLE objectives? The fact that your genetics teacher “is an expert with an excellent background on genetics” does not necessarily make her fit to teach the genetics in the USMLE objectives? The fact that your genetics spent her time on the Human Genome Project teacher does not necessarily make her fit to teach the genetics in the USMLE objectives? Or relate it to the practice of Medicine.

    I have seen this type of thing over and over.

    We know that all saints university is a new school

    We know that all saints university is not as great as ross or st.georges but it is not like any new school that is starting in this day and age. CHECK AUA & UMHS!

    I sat in as a visitor in the first class at Ross. It was not as you say 5 students in a hotel room. That is not what I saw when I visited the fledgling Ross in 1979.

    Again, how do you know that the students that are leaving are bribing and threatening the administration because they want a discount?

    It is noteworthy that you say that what the posters say is 1/4 of the truth. 25% of the sort of thing that is reported is indeed very significant to me.

    I know that some schools do let students think that they can just come and take over and get what they want- especially when the students have paid in advance. I have been at schools where admin tell you THE STUDENTS PAY OUR WAGES. In other words the students can do and say what they wish. I agree that your school should not allow this.

    Since Carribbean schools are a money making business, then the schools must deliver what they advertise. IT IS NOT TRUE THAT YOUR STUDENTS ARE getting the same education that one will get elsewhere.


    If a school does not have the greatest infrastructure it will not succeed. By your own admission the education is NOT excellent from highly qualified teachers. And you have no results to prove any of your detractors WRONG!
    ..
    You err again,
    you can not guarantee that any of your students will be a doctor or that they will be licensed to work in ANY OF THE STATES.

    Re and FYI..all these posts are just written by the same 5 people with different accounts...( i know )

    Are you saying that you guys at ASUSOM are fooling the VMD moderators with your multiple accounts ? I hope that the moderators will investigate this

    SUFFICIENT DOUBT HAS BEEN CREATED BY THE POSTS TO CAUSE PROSPECTIVE STUDENTS to RUN FAR AWAY from ALL SAINTS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Student44 View Post
    That is a very interesting post you put up there.
    There are a few things that I would like to clarify, which may seem as a false representations to those that are not attending the school.

    1) Genetics
    For those who are in the genetics classes have gotten a course outline. That course outline has been followed precisely and if you have Thompson and Thompson Genetics, the same topics that are in the syllabus are covered in that text book. The Genetics teacher does hold a PhD and was one very fortunate to come to our school with an excellent background on genetics..being that she was one of those individuals that spent her time on the Human Genome Project. Yes, she is a student wanting to become a doctor..but who said you have to be a doctor to teach. Shes' a genetics expert so she teaches that course.

    2) Neuro-Anatomy
    Does it matter how long it takes someone to finish med-school. Do we know what happened to that teacher..What were her obligations and why it took her so long. She is a doctor...she passed her step 1 and step 2 with amazing grades and is a Ross Graduate. She answers all questions and she is not a neuro anatomist but anything that is uncertain is always answered the following day if she is unsure..I also believe that the neuro anatomy teacher was telling everyone to purchase first aid regarding our STeps. She also tells us what is going to be very important on the steps and teaches it

    3) Physio Teacher
    When the Physio teacher that was hired (the one playing kaplan videos in class ) was merely a mistake that was made by the school. Having gotten her doctrate degree in Cuba, her transcript yielded excellent grades and her steps were all excellent. She was hired, but she brought her personal problems to school. Yes the students were greatly upset but now the head of physiology is another person who holds a PhD in physiology and was also working at SABA

    4) Histology Teacher
    You say that she has problems with the class and she does not even konw what USMLE is..its funny since that you say that since she wrote the USMLE and makes exams according to USMLE style. The only people that are having problems with her are R,A,M,V,P and some other students that are taking her classes and it obviously is the student. She is a doctor working in dominica, graduated from CUBA and has also passed her steps.

    5) Biochemistry Teacher
    Highly qualified biochemist and knows everything about everything. He also is a doctor ..and a biochemist

    Now, my point to post this thread is to let all students know that yes..all saints university is a new school..it is not as great as ross or st.georges but it'ls like any new school that is starting. Our school is accredited. We have over 30 students in rotations, not just from all saints dominica but also aruba too...we are allowed to rotate in 32 states

    As for all this mess that is going on value MD..this is the truth of the matter.
    There are a few students that are leaving the school and here are the reasons.

    1) Our school does not provide OSAP and this was known to any student that was applying to this school. The school obviously was trying to allow OSAP to give our students a loan but the school needs to be more than 10 years old. Might I add, ROSS UNIVERSITY has been around for 30 years but when it first started it was 5 students in a hotel room and it has become a big success since. These students that are leaving are bribing and threatning the administration because they want a discount. Obviously they are angry and want to leave because the school is not allowing this discount so they write these ugly posts that are not even true. Or 1/4 of the truth..is it the schools fault that their parents cant afford it..I mean knowing ahead of time...if they knew they werent going to get OSAP..doesnt mean you need to go around to P and Y and threaten them that ur leaving so they give you a discount and trying to get many members of the school to do the same. This is a new school so these students think that they can just come and take over and get what they want.

    2) Because all these students are leaving, they want to give All saints a bad reputation so that other students wont come. Carribean schools are a money making business but with that comes the education that we are getting at this school.

    This school is a new school but it is accreddited and you are getting the same education that you will get elsewhere..

    SO TO PROSPECTIVE STUDENTS..you do NOT need to RUN AWAY from ALL SAINTS....it may not have the greatest infrastructure or building but the education is excellent from highly qualified teachers...

    You may look into other schools and exert other options..but this school is no scam..you are guaranteed to be a doctor and will be licensced to work in 32 states (not including New york as yet)
    Speak to students that are doing their rotations or graduating, and call the school yourself and make your own judgement..

    Do not believe false rumours without finding out yourself ...

    and FYI..all these posts are just written by the sae 5 people with different accounts...( i know )
    student 44 you must be having some kind of outer body experience writing everything that you just did... almost everything you said (minus biochem prof) is a lie, I think you are the one who is getting a discount to write things on vmd which are so ridiculous and so far from the truth.. everything bboy wrote was true although I think it was alittle harsh on the epi teacher.. now lets see:

    can you point out the dean of the school to everyone? I doubt even writing his full name is against the rules because it should be provided on the website anyways?

    the genetic prof.. you say the curriculum is followed but the curriculum is nothing but the student teaching themselves and various presentations unrelated to the course... and molecular biology??? i guess that is asking too much haha

    the problem which some students are having with osap is not getting the loan everyone was smart enough to know they could not get loan coming to this school.. but they were all told they will maintain a interest free status (let me break it down to you.. it means you dont have to pay your osap loan back until you finish your education)

    no one is threatening p and Y by transfering.. the only ppl who use threats as a defense mechanism are the admin by refusing giving student's transcripts upon request and telling profs they are not allowed to give reference lettters to students or they will be fired.. also ppl like arvindself and his crew who enjoy writing big words about what they would do and such to ppl voicing their opinions on vmd..

    if any of the actions of ppl posting on this site is against the T.O.S then they will be banned will they not?

    I definitely agree new students should make their judgment but unfortunately it is hard to do that after a visit to the campus and maybe attending a class or two..after that I doubt anyone in their right mind which is really serious about becoming a doctor will consider this school..
    after all us poor folks can not afford to just go to schools for the sake of school spirit and cheerleading.. but Im sure well off rich ppl like you whose parents can afford to blow lots of money on a senseless education have no problem building this forever new school..

    btw how long can a school be considered new? 2 years? 5 years?10 years?
    and please never compare this thing you call a school to ross.. and 3 decades ago...

    and also the same 3 ppl who support this school continue to do it with different accounts (I know)

    take a look with in yourself and stand up for the truth..as arvindself always likes to say"have the balls" lool.

    and never try to take away the right of free speech from students who have suffered so much and have paid a big price for nothing..

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    hey its about time our students started posting their opinions, how do we know about the teachers cv, simple our admin is open whenever they hire a new teacher they tell us their qualifications. about him being a newbie, like i said ur going to see more of these posts, everyone in the school knows about the posts that were made and are very upset. The great beboybetts, sent a threat to one of the students in his pm, which has already been reported to valuemd and they said necessary actions will be taken. sad how ur backing a person who uses racial slurs and threats. for every negative post u make there will be rebuttal from our side, b/c u dont know our school or its students. who are you critique our school, u base all your statement off beboybetts. i've never had anything personal against beboybetts, but after reading that pm, i must say hes a disgusting human being!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zooss View Post
    student 44 you must be having some kind of outer body experience writing everything that you just did... almost everything you said (minus biochem prof) is a lie, I think you are the one who is getting a discount to write things on vmd which are so ridiculous and so far from the truth.. everything bboy wrote was true although I think it was alittle harsh on the epi teacher.. now lets see:

    can you point out the dean of the school to everyone? I doubt even writing his full name is against the rules because it should be provided on the website anyways?

    the genetic prof.. you say the curriculum is followed but the curriculum is nothing but the student teaching themselves and various presentations unrelated to the course... and molecular biology??? i guess that is asking too much haha

    the problem which some students are having with osap is not getting the loan everyone was smart enough to know they could not get loan coming to this school.. but they were all told they will maintain a interest free status (let me break it down to you.. it means you dont have to pay your osap loan back until you finish your education)

    no one is threatening p and Y by transfering.. the only ppl who use threats as a defense mechanism are the admin by refusing giving student's transcripts upon request and telling profs they are not allowed to give reference lettters to students or they will be fired.. also ppl like arvindself and his crew who enjoy writing big words about what they would do and such to ppl voicing their opinions on vmd..

    if any of the actions of ppl posting on this site is against the T.O.S then they will be banned will they not?

    I definitely agree new students should make their judgment but unfortunately it is hard to do that after a visit to the campus and maybe attending a class or two..after that I doubt anyone in their right mind which is really serious about becoming a doctor will consider this school..
    after all us poor folks can not afford to just go to schools for the sake of school spirit and cheerleading.. but Im sure well off rich ppl like you whose parents can afford to blow lots of money on a senseless education have no problem building this forever new school..

    btw how long can a school be considered new? 2 years? 5 years?10 years?
    and please never compare this thing you call a school to ross.. and 3 decades ago...

    and also the same 3 ppl who support this school continue to do it with different accounts (I know)

    take a look with in yourself and stand up for the truth..as arvindself always likes to say"have the balls" lool.

    and never try to take away the right of free speech from students who have suffered so much and have paid a big price for nothing..
    "unfortunately it is hard to do that after a visit to the campus and maybe attending a class or two..after that I doubt anyone in their right mind which is really serious about becoming a doctor will consider this school.."

    let me ask u a simple question why did u decide to stay in this school for 3 semesters, u seem like u have a great mind?

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    ZOOSS

    It is obvious that student 44 is not telling the whole truth.
    It is nice of you to corroborate that everything bboy wrote was true

    Re Your notes about the high powered Genetics prof is very interesting. Often the hiring of these high powered PhD teachers results in nothing but the student teaching themselves and various presentations unrelated to the course...

    I have seen this all before at both SJMS and St Marts. So I am not surprised that it goes on at ASUSOM.

    Refusal of the admin to give student's transcripts upon request and telling profs they are not allowed to give reference letters to students or they will be fired.. was also something that I witnessed first hand at SJSM. So I am not surprised that it goes on at ASUSOM also.

    It is hard for new students to make their judgment about a school by website and a visit to the campus or maybe attending a class or two, but anyone in their right mind who is really serious about becoming a doctor will not consider this school. Having heard the goings on described on this forum.

    You ask a good question… how long can a school be considered new? 2 years? 5 years? 10 years?
    and NO we can not compare start up schools today with Ross 3 decades ago...

    Anyone who monitors VMD regularly know that a few cheerleaders who support ASUSOM are doing so with different accounts probably using a variety of different computers in various parts of Roseau.


    If you know that you have suffered much and have paid a big price for nothing.. speak out. The pen is mightier than the sword.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zooss View Post
    student 44 you must be having some kind of outer body experience writing everything that you just did... almost everything you said (minus biochem prof) is a lie, I think you are the one who is getting a discount to write things on vmd which are so ridiculous and so far from the truth.. everything bboy wrote was true although I think it was alittle harsh on the epi teacher.. now lets see:

    can you point out the dean of the school to everyone? I doubt even writing his full name is against the rules because it should be provided on the website anyways?

    the genetic prof.. you say the curriculum is followed but the curriculum is nothing but the student teaching themselves and various presentations unrelated to the course... and molecular biology??? i guess that is asking too much haha

    the problem which some students are having with osap is not getting the loan everyone was smart enough to know they could not get loan coming to this school.. but they were all told they will maintain a interest free status (let me break it down to you.. it means you dont have to pay your osap loan back until you finish your education)

    no one is threatening p and Y by transfering.. the only ppl who use threats as a defense mechanism are the admin by refusing giving student's transcripts upon request and telling profs they are not allowed to give reference lettters to students or they will be fired.. also ppl like arvindself and his crew who enjoy writing big words about what they would do and such to ppl voicing their opinions on vmd..

    if any of the actions of ppl posting on this site is against the T.O.S then they will be banned will they not?

    I definitely agree new students should make their judgment but unfortunately it is hard to do that after a visit to the campus and maybe attending a class or two..after that I doubt anyone in their right mind which is really serious about becoming a doctor will consider this school..
    after all us poor folks can not afford to just go to schools for the sake of school spirit and cheerleading.. but Im sure well off rich ppl like you whose parents can afford to blow lots of money on a senseless education have no problem building this forever new school..

    btw how long can a school be considered new? 2 years? 5 years?10 years?
    and please never compare this thing you call a school to ross.. and 3 decades ago...

    and also the same 3 ppl who support this school continue to do it with different accounts (I know)

    take a look with in yourself and stand up for the truth..as arvindself always likes to say"have the balls" lool.

    and never try to take away the right of free speech from students who have suffered so much and have paid a big price for nothing..
    My question is why the Dean allways talks and bables on about nothing at the white coat ceremony?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lswiltshire View Post
    ZOOSS

    It is obvious that student 44 is not telling the whole truth.
    It is nice of you to corroborate that everything bboy wrote was true

    Re Your notes about the high powered Genetics prof is very interesting. Often the hiring of these high powered PhD teachers results in nothing but the student teaching themselves and various presentations unrelated to the course...

    I have seen this all before at both SJMS and St Marts. So I am not surprised that it goes on at ASUSOM.

    Refusal of the admin to give student's transcripts upon request and telling profs they are not allowed to give reference letters to students or they will be fired.. was also something that I witnessed first hand at SJSM. So I am not surprised that it goes on at ASUSOM also.

    It is hard for new students to make their judgment about a school by website and a visit to the campus or maybe attending a class or two, but anyone in their right mind who is really serious about becoming a doctor will not consider this school. Having heard the goings on described on this forum.

    You ask a good question… how long can a school be considered new? 2 years? 5 years? 10 years?
    and NO we can not compare start up schools today with Ross 3 decades ago...

    Anyone who monitors VMD regularly know that a few cheerleaders who support ASUSOM are doing so with different accounts probably using a variety of different computers in various parts of Roseau.


    If you know that you have suffered much and have paid a big price for nothing.. speak out. The pen is mightier than the sword.

    You keep on mentioning the same thing about "a few cheerleaders who support ASUSOM are doing so with different accounts". I am unsure about what you mean by that? Are you insinuating that the same person is using different accounts or that there is only a small group of people that support ASUSOM?

    In both scenarios, I am going to have to disagree with you. The sudden interest in VMD from this school is because of the posts that were regarding faculty and admin were highly inappropriate and the word was spread around campus. Arvindself made mention in a previous post about getting more of the student population to post so prospective students could get a chance to see more sides to the story.

    And if you are making claim that the same person is using different accounts "in various parts of Roseau" supporting the school, then why couldn't there be a possibility of the ones who speak out against the school be doing the same thing.

    We (students) attend the school on campus grounds and see for ourselves what goes on everyday. We know who supports the school and who doesn't and that is why some of us can claim who the same 5 people are posting the "truths" about the school.

    I agree with you when you say that others should know about their experience with the school, but when the story has been changed and altered many times its hard to sit back and let these students make a mockery of the education and work that goes on at All Saints from both the students and faculty.

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