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    Saba Student is offline Newbie 510 points
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    Why Saba Fails to care about their students!

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    I want to first say I never complain and always try to look at the bright side of things, but this post needs to be done. I am a current student at Saba med.. The school has its up and downs , but honestly the president of the school, Dr. Chu is not in touch with his students nor those the administration care AT ALL FOR THEIR STUDENTS NOR THEIR SAFETY. I am hoping that the administration sees this especially Dr. Chu. I am happy that this school allowed me to attend and I have made it very far in the program, so no I WAS NOT A DROP OUT AND NO I AM NOT BITTER BECAUSE THE PROGRAM IS HARD. I am mad because the school has around 200 American students that relies on their financial aid to pay rent, buy food, pay bills. It has been a month and some time now and none of the students are able to get their refund money and the school REFUSES to answer the question on why they haven't sent our money. We have talked to all the deans and they were told to stay out of financial aid and when Dr. Chu ( who supposedly cares about his students ) was asked why the student cant get their money before near the end of the semester, he simply answer that he knows NOTHING ABOUT THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT ( I thought it was the president job to know about major functions of the school ). Students are left not able to pay bills, buy food, pay rent and the school could care less. I am calling out SABA on their false statements of how they are there for their students. If you cant pay out of pocket for the expensive living cost to be on this island DO NOT ATTEND THIS SCHOOL. The hardship to do good in your classes and to worry about where your next meal comes from is not worth it. I have heard other school are there to support their students care for their students success Saba is not the school. President Chu you have failed to provide the simple things student needs , and that is self assurance that the school has the students well being in mind! If there is some one out there that has a little more insight on the legal matter on how schools handle financial aid please respond to my post. Things need to change at this school ! do your research before you come here !
    p.s. please excuse my lack of proper grammar, I wrote this in a rush!

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    I think before anyone attends an offshore medical school they need to have a reliable funding source. Of course these schools require tuition from students to pay the bills and make a profit; I think we all knew that. Seems like most schools in the caribbean are very similar, which some better better and some even being worse.

    the concerns you have are very real, but this is the reality for offshore medical schools. when I was in the caribbean at medical school, a similar thing happened and it was because the school did not know what was going on with the funding and they didn't want to say something and then it turn out to be wrong, so they decided to say very little and they got more information. again, this is less than ideal.

    I was in a similar situation as you. I recall being in clinical rotations very worried about barely making my financial obligations and a classmate with rich parents buying her a brand new convertible. do what you can to get through and finish.
    Last edited by don1; 06-18-2017 at 06:53 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by don1 View Post
    I think before anyone attends an offshore medical school they need to have a reliable funding source. Of course these schools require tuition from students to pay the bills and make a profit; I think we all knew that. Seems like most schools in the caribbean are very similar, which some better better and some even being worse.

    the concerns you have are very real, but this is the reality for offshore medical schools. when I was in the caribbean at medical school, a similar thing happened and it was because the school did not know what was going on with the funding and they didn't want to say something and then it turn out to be wrong, so they decided to say very little and they got more information. again, this is less than ideal.

    I was in a similar situation as you. I recall being in clinical rotations very worried about barely making my financial obligations and a classmate with rich parents buying her a brand new convertible. do what you can to get through and finish.
    Thanks so much for your comment. You are right about having back up expenses, but in reality most of us are attending school solely on the basis of the help from FASFA. That's why I wrote this article cause if I knew it would be like this here I would at least worked a couple more years and saved up(honestly if I did continue to work I would always find a excuse not to apply and delay my dream).Truth be told if the school showed a little more sympathy and made more of a effort to keep the students in the loop it would alleviate a lot of our stress.

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    Are you with me Dr. Chu?
    Are you really just a shadow of the Dean that I once knew?
    Are you crazy...are you high?
    Or just an ordinary guy...
    Have you done all you can do to help us through this?

    Don't seem right
    I've been strung out here all night
    I've been waiting for the taste you said you'd give to me...
    Ladder Bay
    where the Saba faculty drink all day
    I went searching for the song you
    used to sing to me

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    I'm a current student unfortunately! Do not waste your talents and money coming down here to this false advertising institution!

    The quality of education is horrendous!! The admin only cares about money and their curriculum is set up for student hardship and even failure. Everything is poorly taught by profs with very thick foreign accents and their is no time to properly review the material. We all end up cramming everything even when we keep up with our studies.

    Please take my advice seriously and DO NOT MAKE THE SAME MISTAKE I MADE COMING HERE!

    Be patient and work on you app for US and Canadian schools. Good luck all!

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    That is very unfortunate that your experience has been so poor. I finished at MUA and did my rotations with plenty of Saba students. Most have matched into residency and are staff now. Every school cares about money, but they have a good track record from my first hand observation. Things may have changed, who knows.

    Wait until you get to residency or become a fellow. Talk about hardship, it gets worse. Sometimes I work 14+ hours in a day and have to still read and study afterwards. My medical life seems to be all about cramming for exams; that is reality.

    Quote Originally Posted by mambostrike5 View Post
    I'm a current student unfortunately! Do not waste your talents and money coming down here to this false advertising institution!

    The quality of education is horrendous!! The admin only cares about money and their curriculum is set up for student hardship and even failure. Everything is poorly taught by profs with very thick foreign accents and their is no time to properly review the material. We all end up cramming everything even when we keep up with our studies.

    Please take my advice seriously and DO NOT MAKE THE SAME MISTAKE I MADE COMING HERE!

    Be patient and work on you app for US and Canadian schools. Good luck all!

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    One of my close friends also went to MUA, he specializes in sleep med now. Maybe you know him? Omar, really calm bald Pakistani guy (I'd prefer not to give out his last name, just wondering if it rings a bell).

    Anyway, they actually have changed things a lot, at Saba anyway. About 2 years ago they changed the curriculum completely to make it more "systems based," and they have literally made a change in the curriculum every semester since I have been here. It seems as if though they screwed up and they've been trying to do damage control ever since. Their EXIT pass rates went from 80-90% to 50-60% (this is actual data from Dr. Chu the school's president, 6 months ago when he came to visit the island).

    I understand that hours for clerkship and residency are grueling and way tougher, but you're active moving around, observing and learning....8-9 mandatory hours of disorganized lecture in thick foreign accents is a huge waste of time for many of us who are independent learners....we end up having to reteach ourselves almost everything in an even lesser amount of time after getting out of class. My problem is not about the amount of time we must work and study, my issue is with the inflexible attitude towards hearing out the student body's concerns, then turning around and being so money hungry. It takes away from the dignity of the educational institution.

    I know it sounds like a petty complaint, but it is having a major impact on many of us here. So many students from every semester complain about the wasted hours of mandatory lecture. And the EXIT pass rates for the last year and a half are evident of the matter.

    Thank you for your input though. I just advise people to really investigate these Caribbean school thoroughly before venturing out to the especially Saba.

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    I do know an omar but I haven't kept in touch with him over the last few years. exit pass rate drop that you mention is quite substantial.

    I hear you about the long lectures and feeling like you're getting little from it. I heard of students from other school (ie. st. george) not even going to lectures and using some posted online material from lectures to study stuff and they would only go to labs. i wish I could do that. my med school had forced students to attend classes as well. that said, some of the top schools in canada and US had some poorly taught classes but because they are considered great programs complaints don't always result in change.

    All I can really say it that in the end it is worth it going through the struggle and making it work in a broken system. My 6 months income as an attending pays what I spent in my entire medical school education (4 years of tuition, housing, rent, food, books, car, etc).

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    Thanks man, this gives me and my friends hope to just continue on and put up with their garbage. Hopefully we can make it out of here asap.

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    As a Saba grad, it saddens me to read this post. It wasn't always as described in this thread.

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