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    BEWARE: Ukrainian and Russian med diplomas NOT recognised in EU

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    I wanted to put this warning here due to several people asking me about possibility to transfert out to Romanian medschool to get EU degree , after 4 or 5 years (and now that's impossible)
    Ukrainian medshools are well known and serious from what I heard , but the point is that false rumors and advertising even coming from official websites tell about ECTS , european degree etc.. which is a lie. degree has the same recognition than Russian degrees , which makes it impossible to work in western europe , at least in the countries I know : uk , ireland , France etc...
    Ukrainian can be a good preparation for boards , but please stop spreading these fake informations

    here is the legislation about European union mutual recognition of medical grades , p79 is the list of the countries and diplomas recognised http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/...0090427:EN:PDF

    please stop fooling applicants on this , ukrainian medschools have other qualities that you should insist on , no need to scam
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    please chapelier, are med diplomas in russia recognised in the EU?

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    If you simply click on the link that chapelier very kindly provided in his/her post, the answer you seek will be available.

    (I mean, he probably wouldn't do it, but what if chapelier was in a bad mood and decided to lie to you? ALWAYS VERIFY FOR YOURSELF!)

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    even valuemd is participating to this joke . here is an advert for Lugansk state medical university , puting the stress on "European Medical school"
    Ukraine is part of Europe but not of European Union. Grades awarded are not recognised in Europe , they are equivalent to Russian grades.
    I'm fed up with answering MP from people wanting to transfert out when they realise it ... be honest once , don't fool people and play with their carrieres
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    Diplomas from Romania are recognized in the EU though right? So a Romanian graduate can practice anywhere in Europe without any problem at all?

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    Also, I know this is off-topic here, but a U.S Medical graduate (DO or MD), can they practice in Europe or are there equivalency exams? Or they have to redo medical school all over again? Thanks!

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    Yes, Romania is a member of the EU. That should not pose a problem, assuming you can pass any language exams and meet any other requirements for your country of practice choice. Note, however, that some countries are tougher than others about licensing, depending on how badly they need doctors. Currently, if you speak English or German and want to work in Ireland or Germany, that is a much easier row to hoe than speaking Dutch or French and wanting to work in Holland or France. Also, your ability to practice could hinge significantly on your country of citizenship, depending on where you want to work. In some places (UK, Holland, etc.) you will have almost no chance for residency training or work without an EU passport.

    On the other hand, a USMD medical graduate will not automatically receive a medical license in the EU. They must apply to have their credentials examined for equivalency, and may or may not be approved. This can take for-freaking-ever, depending on the government, how efficient it is (or isn't), and probably who you know. A USDO medical graduate must go through the same hoops, but there are a few countries that absolutely WILL NOT accept the DO degree (France is one of them). This is because in many parts of Europe, osteopathy is considered (and trained as) a separate profession along the lines of physical therapy and kinesiology, and it is not medical school training for full physicians like in the States. In most of the EU, however, DOs will be on equal footing with MDs as far as application for equivalency, for whatever good that does.

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    Hi, I'm Brazilian, I'm considering the possibility of studying medicine in Russia. The information I got so far is that it is possible to do residency in some WE countries, like Germany - in fact, a friend, with KSMU degree, got this. The information posted on this topic contradict with the information that I had.

    So I wonder if there is the possibility, after obtaining degree in Russia, to residence in any Western Europe country (particularly UK, Spain, Netherlands, Italy, France, Ireland)? Otherwise, what are my options? If you do not have a recognized degree in WE, I would be limited to work in Russia? I could always revalidate the diploma in Brazil, my native country. But I had no plans to return, I was thinking in live out there.

    Thank you!

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    What about Bologna Process? Not valid?
    Last edited by NoiS; 08-08-2011 at 04:59 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoiS View Post
    Hi, I'm Brazilian, I'm considering the possibility of studying medicine in Russia. The information I got so far is that it is possible to do residency in some WE countries, like Germany - in fact, a friend, with KSMU degree, got this. The information posted on this topic contradict with the information that I had.

    So I wonder if there is the possibility, after obtaining degree in Russia, to residence in any Western Europe country (particularly UK, Spain, Netherlands, Italy, France, Ireland)? Otherwise, what are my options? If you do not have a recognized degree in WE, I would be limited to work in Russia? I could always revalidate the diploma in Brazil, my native country. But I had no plans to return, I was thinking in live out there.

    Thank you!

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    What about Bologna Process? Not valid?
    Hi NoiS

    I am just another friend hanging around here in this forum for some time and I can share only what I know:

    Russia is not an EU member, so your degree from a Russian scool is not "automatically" recognized in EU countries. But you may take the exams of the country you wish to live, to get your degree accredited. How? I dont know, it varies from one country to the other..
    If you consider to stay and work in an EU country, and if you are not clear yet which one it will be, then to me to have your education in one of the EU countries is better..

    May I suggest you to read Devildoc8404's posts.. all of them if possible it helps a lot.. and hang around, be a member of this forum family for some time and ask every bit of question in your mind about everything (relevant or irrelevant, it doesnt matter)... then you will have a much clear picture about which country, which school etc.etc. can be better for you? There are many options.. just you must have "knowledge".

    Good luck my dear

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