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    Attention here: Med in Russia & afterlife?

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    Hi, all!
    I am a fresh graduate from Aus. highschool-and am not a P.M or citizen there though- and have been planning to study overseas for quite a long time. Alike some of you active in this forum, I am planning to study medicine, of which course is conducted in English, in Eastern Europe.

    Ok--hold on, I think I have had enough pros & cons as to attending universities in Eastern Europe. So lest it be really confidential and necessary, please do not give me 'why you shouldn't go there, because it's risky & harsh & they're always there to bribe you' type of thing. I think these comments are quite helpful, in a sense that you get to know the dark side of the nation (or perhaps the country itself is dark so --like Russia, no offence) BUT they have not helped ,me, at least, to understand about courses & make a decision.

    Moreover, please correct me if I have a bucket of wrong ideas.

    First up. Regardless of whichever the university you go to, if it be European university and nation that doesn't speak English --incl. Poland, Hungary, Russia--you OUGHT TO learn the foreign language anyway, for the sake of clerkship & dealing with patients during univ. years.
    So -- is it true that you ought to learn Russian, Hungarian, Polish, or whatever, to study in that country?

    Second, I am intending to go to SZEGED university, if I get a chance to study in Hungary. Knowing about the harsh reality? That's cool, but you see we have to stick to our goals and do F***** hard so we could be whatever we wanted to become/ end up with?

    So please, please, don't tell me 'oh, you would end up wasting your money & time' UNLESS you have your time to talk to me and give me the objectvie info & experiences , not sentimental ones.

    Third. I have considered: Polish medical schools, Russian medical schools and Hungarian. --The reason I am going to these schools are due to lack of $$ so please consider.-- Then again, this gets to a narrower point: Polish: University of Silesia,(and other med schools if they have not closed their application yet)
    Hungarian: SZEGED, Semmelweis
    Russian: People's Friendship University, St petersburg State univ faculty of med and Moscow state Univ faculty of med.


    Fourth. I realised that Russian & Polish med programmes in English have not yet been recognised & accredited by any of the states. Programmes in their language have been approved though. I know this may be a pain in the neck kind of question -- I know there's a lot to know about licensure, residency, and so on so I have looked up and read - but I could only get a vague idea of what it is--but, COULD YOU TELL ME BY HOW MUCH DEGREE, IT WOULD BE DISADVANTAGES FOR STUDENTS GRADUATED FROM RUSSIA? IF state says they do not approve Russian med schools, then how far does it make it hard to get licensured in U.S?



    Thank you,
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    Yours sincerely,

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    Quote Originally Posted by KaKo View Post
    Hi, all!
    I am a fresh graduate from Aus. highschool-and am not a P.M or citizen there though- and have been planning to study overseas for quite a long time. Alike some of you active in this forum, I am planning to study medicine, of which course is conducted in English, in Eastern Europe.

    Ok--hold on, I think I have had enough pros & cons as to attending universities in Eastern Europe. So lest it be really confidential and necessary, please do not give me 'why you shouldn't go there, because it's risky & harsh & they're always there to bribe you' type of thing. I think these comments are quite helpful, in a sense that you get to know the dark side of the nation (or perhaps the country itself is dark so --like Russia, no offence) BUT they have not helped ,me, at least, to understand about courses & make a decision.

    Moreover, please correct me if I have a bucket of wrong ideas.

    First up. Regardless of whichever the university you go to, if it be European university and nation that doesn't speak English --incl. Poland, Hungary, Russia--you OUGHT TO learn the foreign language anyway, for the sake of clerkship & dealing with patients during univ. years.
    So -- is it true that you ought to learn Russian, Hungarian, Polish, or whatever, to study in that country?

    Second, I am intending to go to SZEGED university, if I get a chance to study in Hungary. Knowing about the harsh reality? That's cool, but you see we have to stick to our goals and do F***** hard so we could be whatever we wanted to become/ end up with?

    So please, please, don't tell me 'oh, you would end up wasting your money & time' UNLESS you have your time to talk to me and give me the objectvie info & experiences , not sentimental ones.

    Third. I have considered: Polish medical schools, Russian medical schools and Hungarian. --The reason I am going to these schools are due to lack of $$ so please consider.-- Then again, this gets to a narrower point: Polish: University of Silesia,(and other med schools if they have not closed their application yet)
    Hungarian: SZEGED, Semmelweis
    Russian: People's Friendship University, St petersburg State univ faculty of med and Moscow state Univ faculty of med.


    Fourth. I realised that Russian & Polish med programmes in English have not yet been recognised & accredited by any of the states. Programmes in their language have been approved though. I know this may be a pain in the neck kind of question -- I know there's a lot to know about licensure, residency, and so on so I have looked up and read - but I could only get a vague idea of what it is--but, COULD YOU TELL ME BY HOW MUCH DEGREE, IT WOULD BE DISADVANTAGES FOR STUDENTS GRADUATED FROM RUSSIA? IF state says they do not approve Russian med schools, then how far does it make it hard to get licensured in U.S?



    Thank you,
    waiting for your good talks

    Yours sincerely,
    Well you did some research it seems. Of all Russian med schools those three are definitely the best to choose from. All others are corrupted in some degree from what I hear.

    In Moscow state you cant study in english medium as you can in petersburg state med fac or in PFU. Both americans and canadians have studied in english&russian medium and from what I know its the same. As long as the school is listed you can pass the USMLEs and get licenced.

    You have to learn the language to communicate with patients wherever you go. The course will mostly be oriented towards medical terminology at the end. Its quite a lot of work.

    The psychological climate is harsh harsh harsh in Russia if you grew up in the western world. People are not smiling and friendly but rather the opposite in many cases. And dont expect to get respectfully treated anywere. If you can cope with it you can learn very well though.

    Just wrote some of what I could think of, if my grammar is horrible its because Im sleepy.

    Good luck

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    Hi there, I became very interested when reading your originsl post.
    Similarly I have wanted to study in eastern Europe (russia) for a long time now and have just graduated from a UK high school, I am 18.
    I have been told many a horror story about different russian uni's but have decided to apply to PFU and St Perersburg (pavlov). I agree that when living "in country" you should aim to speak the language anyway, though I plan to study in English medium to begin with.

    I understand that there is a lot of culture shock to deal with when living in russia but I plan to check out the university(s) I have picked in December this year; i dont expect it to be a walk in the park but then who wants to study medicine as an easy option anyway?

    It would be interesting to talk to you at some point and hear your views/experiences.
    I am now reaching the stage where I hope I have sufficient grades to meet the entry criteria and would be really pleased to hear if you know what these are for international students.

    Jenny Waspe

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    Hi! I'm from asia or more specificly malaysia. Like what KaKo said, most student chooses russia,polish or hungarian med school is because of ONE main reason. The lack of $$. I really understand because thats the problem i'm facing. I'm 18 and about to leave to Moscow Medical Academy next week for pre med.

    About the pros & cons..Well I've heare lots of bad things about russia and so on. How corrupted etc. But actually coming from malaysia (which is actually quite corrupted n racist) I don't think that's be much of a problem.

    As for the language, of course when you live in a foreign country you must learn their language in order to get through daily life. And its also needed during clinical years in russia. For russian language is actually quite easy to learn. I've only took a intensive course in my country about 2 months and i can read every russian words there is. Just that I don;t understand all of them =p

    I have a few contacts there..as in medical students from my own country. Nobody has such problems as bad as what was stated in the other topics. Most of them give postive feedback saying it's really a nice place to study and live. Of course the starting point will be hard as you will need to learn to fit in but it all becomes well after 2-3 months. As most of the seniors i know tell me, all you need is friends and everything seems to be great.

    In terms of education and career chances..Of course russian med schools will lose to med schools in places such as US,UK or Aus. But you'll also be able to fulfill your dream to become a doctor. I've heard that if you do your postgraduate in US it'll be easier to practice there. I plan to try that.

    I can't really explain the situation there as I've never been there before. Next week I'll be starting then I really will be able to give more good feedbacks.

    Any questions feel free to give a message ya?

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    clinical specialization

    hi
    pls
    can you guide me for cardiology specialization from the univ you are looking in?
    cheap tuition fess and strong recognition?and nominal entry requirements?
    kind regards
    drriazahmedkhan@yahoo.com

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    which university

    Hey. Which university do you want to look into? If you give me a few suggestions I may be able to contact friends studying there.

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    is pfu the best university in Russia?

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